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CAPTORofSIN
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 Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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I'm looking to build a snare, but I'm not sure what I want is available (or at a reasonable price). Is it possible to purchase a 10 ply shell (6 maple, 4 birch)?
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bytor
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Location: Kansas
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:00 am Post subject: |
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| I don't believe I have ever seen mixed wood shells available to the general public, but then again, I haven't built a drum in a while so maybe things have changed. Why are you looking for this particular configuration, and where are you wanting the different plies of each wood type? Just curious. |
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tylerdrummer
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Joined: 22 Jun 2007
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Location: California, F
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 11:01 am Post subject: |
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| why is it when i type something on here and it sits for 2 moths then another asks and gets answerd in a day?? |
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CAPTORofSIN
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Joined: 22 Dec 2003
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Location: Orange County (exactly like the show)
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 11:21 am Post subject: |
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| tylerdrummer wrote: | | why is it when i type something on here and it sits for 2 moths then another asks and gets answerd in a day?? |
because you're a Fierce Poodle and I'm the King of the Jungle 
ahahah, just kidding. I would imagine it's just who checks the threads....I think I got lucky, thats all brotha!
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CAPTORofSIN
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Location: Orange County (exactly like the show)
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 11:29 am Post subject: |
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| bytor wrote: | | I don't believe I have ever seen mixed wood shells available to the general public, but then again, I haven't built a drum in a while so maybe things have changed. Why are you looking for this particular configuration, and where are you wanting the different plies of each wood type? Just curious. |
I knew it would be an oddball idea. ahah.
Maple tends to offer a warm, great sounding tone....while birch supplies the attack/sensitivity? Does that sound correct?
I figured that combination would perfect...even though it's most likely not possible. ahah
I'm not too sure about dimensions yet, possibly 5.5x13?
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tylerdrummer
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Location: California, F
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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i know i dont have any stars either 
haha
isnt birch the warmer sounding one with maple being more attack? |
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bytor
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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| tylerdrummer wrote: | | isnt birch the warmer sounding one with maple being more attack? |
No. Captor has it right. Of course, these are all subjective, abstract ideas, anyway. |
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bytor
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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| tylerdrummer wrote: | | why is it when i type something on here and it sits for 2 moths then another asks and gets answerd in a day?? |
I wasn't ignoring your post from a couple of months ago. I have just never worked with paint when building drums, so I chose to not say anything. All of the drums I've built were stained and clear-coated with either polyurethane, lacquer, or tung oil, not painted. However, from what I've heard, high-quality automotive paint followed by several coats of polyurethane should give you a nice finish. As for time, be prepared to put a significant amount into it. Getting a glassy smooth finish takes time and patience. |
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bytor
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Location: Kansas
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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| CAPTORofSIN wrote: | | bytor wrote: | | I don't believe I have ever seen mixed wood shells available to the general public, but then again, I haven't built a drum in a while so maybe things have changed. Why are you looking for this particular configuration, and where are you wanting the different plies of each wood type? Just curious. |
I knew it would be an oddball idea. ahah.
Maple tends to offer a warm, great sounding tone....while birch supplies the attack/sensitivity? Does that sound correct?
I figured that combination would perfect...even though it's most likely not possible. ahah
I'm not too sure about dimensions yet, possibly 5.5x13? |
I built a 5.5x13" zebrawood snare. I got the shell from Joshua Tree Percussion Co. They make fantastic shells. I put a natural tung oil finish on it with chrome hardware. I love it. It's a nice size for a snare drum, either main or auxiliary.
As for the sound you want, you might want to look into different kinds of woods. Maybe an exotic hardwood, like that zebrawood I just mentioned, would suit your needs. Check out this site to get an idea of how different types of wood sound:
http://www.drumsolo.cc/snare_drums/snare_gallery/snare_gallery.html |
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tylerdrummer
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Joined: 22 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| for the most part i was wondering what i could use for color, if there was paint or not or any products i could use |
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CAPTORofSIN
King of the Jungle
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
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Location: Orange County (exactly like the show)
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| bytor wrote: | | CAPTORofSIN wrote: | | bytor wrote: | | I don't believe I have ever seen mixed wood shells available to the general public, but then again, I haven't built a drum in a while so maybe things have changed. Why are you looking for this particular configuration, and where are you wanting the different plies of each wood type? Just curious. |
I knew it would be an oddball idea. ahah.
Maple tends to offer a warm, great sounding tone....while birch supplies the attack/sensitivity? Does that sound correct?
I figured that combination would perfect...even though it's most likely not possible. ahah
I'm not too sure about dimensions yet, possibly 5.5x13? |
I built a 5.5x13" zebrawood snare. I got the shell from Joshua Tree Percussion Co. They make fantastic shells. I put a natural tung oil finish on it with chrome hardware. I love it. It's a nice size for a snare drum, either main or auxiliary.
As for the sound you want, you might want to look into different kinds of woods. Maybe an exotic hardwood, like that zebrawood I just mentioned, would suit your needs. Check out this site to get an idea of how different types of wood sound:
http://www.drumsolo.cc/snare_drums/snare_gallery/snare_gallery.html |
Excellent, thanks Bytor!
Now it's the task of choosing between all these amazing woods!
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shiloh
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Joined: 16 Dec 2006
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Location: too close to the nuke
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:35 am Post subject: |
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Hi just browsing here, I believe mixed shells are a vail. from keller, or who ever distributes them, maple with birch , mahogany, myself , I lean towards the mahogany.
As a builder, and IMHO, to my ear I find that the softer the wood the warmer and wetter the sound, ie, the softest wood I use is butternut, nice warm fat sound, were as sugar maple from my area produces, still a fairly warm sound, but the crisp briteness starts to shine through.
This too will hold true for exotics, though not well versed in imported woods, my experiance is mostly with mahogany(soft, warm), and rose woods(harder, briter).
ttfn, Rick
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bytor
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| Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Mahogany always has a great, warm tone. You can't go wrong with mahogany... real mahogany, not the luaun stuff. |
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