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The549
King Kong
Joined: 24 Jan 2004
Posts: 2342
Location: Northern CA
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To me it sounds like you just need lots of low pressure time jamming out with people, so you can incorporate your fills and practice into playing with a band.
You can try recording your drumming in various ways, but I truly believe that you'll find that the best thing you can do is to have the confidence that you play well with other people. To do that you just have to spend time playing with them.
Things that you might have to spend some time thinking of now will become innate with time jamming, and you'll make sure to continuously add to your repertoire.
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Dustin07
Labrador
Joined: 16 Jan 2007
Posts: 302
Location: seattle area
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thanks, and I think you're right. we jammed again on Saturday and things went much better. even the singer mentioned that he thought my drumming was way tighter than before (although I was keeping time just fine before, but he seemed to notice an improvement elsewhere)
we had a good session. He was able to give me ideas he had by making noises with his mouth, and I translated them to the drums, LOL. it worked well.
as far as fills go, well... yeah. I think just practicing more and they will come. I see a lot of places come and go in the middle of songs where I'd like to add some stuff, but it's usually long gone before I think of it and I don't want to stand up and go
"uh guys, hold it, hold it, lets do that last part again..."
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TRIB
Lion King
Joined: 18 Jan 2004
Posts: 1242
Location: AZ
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| Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Dustin07 wrote: | as far as fills go, well... yeah. I think just practicing more and they will come. I see a lot of places come and go in the middle of songs where I'd like to add some stuff, but it's usually long gone before I think of it and I don't want to stand up and go
"uh guys, hold it, hold it, lets do that last part again..."
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Well hold on, now... Don't be afraid to do that! I came to the realization a little while back that that's not at all a bad thing. This was what prompted me to consider it:
One of my old bands was having some trouble keeping a few of our songs tight, and there were some discrepancies about the music, it was like we weren't all on the same page. Coincidentally, I couldn't understand how my high school jazz band could be so tight together and know the music so well, so I took a look at the differences between how the two bands (jazz band and my own band) practiced. And therein lyes the key.
When the jazz band messes up a part of the song, the director stops us right then and there and tells us. He doesn't wait for us to finish the song to give us feedback. Then we'll go back and play from the part we messed up until we get it right, rather than starting from the top.
Obviously, one member of a band acting as a "director" is usually a recipe for band problems... But it doesn't mean you still can't practice as if you had a director. Don't be afraid to ask to go back to a certain part of a song. |
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Dustin07
Labrador
Joined: 16 Jan 2007
Posts: 302
Location: seattle area
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thanks for that. I'll consider it! I'm still new to the band though, last guy to join so I feel as though I need to earn my way a bit before I start interrupting, but we'll see how it goes  |
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drummrguy
Sea Monkey
Joined: 17 Feb 2007
Posts: 10
Location: pasadena
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smokingun
Big Pit Bull
Joined: 31 Jan 2007
Posts: 396
Location: new zealand
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:58 pm Post subject: Re: Writing... |
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| icanplaydrums wrote: | | Well, in my personal process after I hear the riff(guitar, piano, bass, etc...), I just start moving around on my kit... and experiement as MUCH as possible.. .. |
Dude, is that you band? Your sound OWNS - rock the f -on!!!!! |
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12barblues
Growing Guppy
Joined: 08 Dec 2006
Posts: 42
Location: Earth
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| Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:30 am Post subject: Re: How do you write drum parts? |
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| Dustin07 wrote: | Do you just sit there and play to what the rest of the band has already written and hope to remember it? Or do you keep pen and paper next to you the whole time and write the drum part down? I was thinking about getting some blank sheet music paper so I could write the drum parts down as we go. I thought then I could dissect it a bit better, follow the bassists parts more, etc.
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Since I do not read music or drum tabs, I simply get a copy of the lyrics, keep it nearby on a sheet music stand next to my hi-hats and follow the lyrics. I pencil in the places where I need to open or close the hi-hats, roll, hit the crash, or use the ride cymbal or what have you. I write 1x, 2x 3x etc.....for the amount of times a drum part needs to be done....I write the work "break" if there is a break in a song...I just use simple generic terms.
Simple is good in my book and I practice the song(s) many, many times to get it ingrained in my head how my band is playing it. The other thing I do, is if we're playing a cover song, I not only listen to the original, I also listen to how other cover bands play the same tune to get an idea on how it can be slightly changed yet still maintain the same melody.
If I'm writing a new song, again, I get a copy of the lyrics, and with a basic "beat" in mind just handwrite my notations as I think I need to.
Works great!!
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four_over_three
Newbie Alert
Joined: 22 Mar 2007
Posts: 3
Location: Athens
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| Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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I usually listen to the song first then try jamming on it. I have my pc next to the kit so by using gp5 I tab the drum parts I play. After tabbing the basics I only play to a click and try to find out how could the drum parts sound better if it was just drums. I tab that too and then play that on the music. If it suits right it's ok, otherwise I try other ideas. I don't write down any specific breaks , just the really characteristic breaks that kinda "define" the drums in this particular song. So normally it depends on my mood what other breaks I use in the song and my mood changes pretty much from one take to another ..lol.. (a slight problem that is.) That's my advise of course but I can ensure you that it really works for me ;p .
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