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YoufxxkingLoveMe Sea Monkey

Joined: 01 Jan 2004 Posts: 10 Location: On my drums
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Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2004 2:47 pm Post subject: Snaring like Travis |
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I was listening to some snare patterns/fills by travis from blink 182. IM not a big blink fan but im a big Travis fan. Anyone know his secret to get that speed taht he has on snare. And the technique he does or you do.. Im just looking for some snare help haha.  _________________ Rock on |
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Tenor_freak Big Hamster

Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 92 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2004 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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he was an avid marcher more than likely his secret is his rudimental background. I know it helps me i can blaze on a snare drum. It also could be attributed to how long he has been playing and how much and how often he plays. _________________ -Larry PAHS Tenor proud Tama Rockstar DX owner |
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Andy-Flag Drummer House Cat
Joined: 25 Nov 2003 Posts: 158 Location: Canton, Ohio
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Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2004 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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My tip is...tight...tight heads, and tight snares... _________________ This Machine Kills Fascists
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TKO Kitten

Joined: 10 Dec 2003 Posts: 131 Location: Brooksville
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Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2004 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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My tip is, don't bounce. Practice whenever you possibly can on a pillow with big fat sticks. Make your form flawless. But really the ONLY way to get that fast IMO is marching band. _________________ Finish him!
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premier birch Rattlesnake

Joined: 10 Dec 2003 Posts: 435 Location: England
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Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 1:46 am Post subject: |
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| you dont have to be in a marching band though, just practice your rudiments constantly. |
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Tenor_freak Big Hamster

Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 92 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 7:17 am Post subject: |
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being in marching does help though it gives you better timing plus it gets yor legs in shape. though you dont have to do it to have good hands. Just practicing rudiments wont get you there either. rudiments are rhythm and technique builders becasue they really dont have an emphasis on speed. You need to use them in conjunction with some speed building exercises. Like hugga dugga burr, 8 on a hand, Speed singles, digga dup and others. I'll put together a speed building exercise page for ya guys to use and i'll post it up.
Got it done enjoy.. play slow and eventually get it up in the 200-250 bpm Range
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premier birch Rattlesnake

Joined: 10 Dec 2003 Posts: 435 Location: England
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Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 8:29 am Post subject: |
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| i dont see how, you don't do extraordinary things in a marching band, you can do it all at home. |
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TKO Kitten

Joined: 10 Dec 2003 Posts: 131 Location: Brooksville
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Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 8:47 am Post subject: |
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Yeah I guess you're right. You do learn faster in marching band though, thats a fact. Unless all you do all day is practice, hehe. _________________ Finish him!
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YoufxxkingLoveMe Sea Monkey

Joined: 01 Jan 2004 Posts: 10 Location: On my drums
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Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 1:42 pm Post subject: Thanks |
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Thanks for the advice and the exercise guys. Yeah im not a marching band kid but, i do have time to prac. I guess i just need to focus on just snare for periods of time instead of the whole set. And ill check out that exercise thanks guys _________________ Rock on |
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Tenor_freak Big Hamster

Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 92 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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Well most marching bands have gotten pretty hardcore especially college level bands, drum corps and big school marching bands. They tend to play alot. plus they get instructors on there instrument for drumcrop people jsut about everyday, college pretty much anytime, high school whenever they need it. They are constantly playing in a rehersal or preformance setting so they learn to play it right all the time. The music is written for them based on there skills. Its better than anymetronome. In a band you will have about 4 or 5 poeple that you have to keep time with in a marching band you can have 200 plus people that you have to keep time with. It also helps to keep your mind unclutered. Becasue you have to watch the drum major, play the music from memory in most places, march, and stay in time all at the same time. plus when your marching you have specific spots you have to goto. So overall it makes you more coordinated,gives you more stamina, better chops, Makes you play better becasue you ahve constant instruction, Makes you play like its always for show, and makes you a more well rounded musician. thats how it helps _________________ -Larry PAHS Tenor proud Tama Rockstar DX owner |
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rkettner Labrador
Joined: 06 Jan 2004 Posts: 306 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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Get a good book like Stick Control for the Snare Drummer... play the patterns in that book as instructed inside the front cover... it does amazing things for speed and flexibility (like... you'll be more comfortable playing different patterns on the toms, etc.). I recommend playing em on a practice pad and a RTOM Workout Pad... back and fourth between the two. _________________ Rick Kettner - DrumTechniques.com Support |
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FwuffyTheBunny Ferret

Joined: 04 Jan 2004 Posts: 122 Location: St.Thomas, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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It's because he uses the Gladstone technique. Whut this is is that you only use the DOWN motion when hitting your drums, you let the stick do the work of bring it back up. So you throw it down slightly harder than normal and let it bounce back up to your hand, but by time it gets back up your hand should already be in the downwards motion. This technique reduces strain on your wrists/arms, and will help you play faster and for longer. Basically this technique is that your pretending the tip of the stick is a bouncy ball. You throw it down it comes back higher than where you threw it from. It takes ALOT of practice. I'm actually just getting taught it right nwo from my drum teacher. Its pretty tough but if you get it its great! Goodluck man _________________ Live To Drum, Drum To Live |
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rkettner Labrador
Joined: 06 Jan 2004 Posts: 306 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| FwuffyTheBunny wrote: | | It's because he uses the Gladstone technique. Whut this is is that you only use the DOWN motion when hitting your drums, you let the stick do the work of bring it back up. So you throw it down slightly harder than normal and let it bounce back up to your hand, but by time it gets back up your hand should already be in the downwards motion. This technique reduces strain on your wrists/arms, and will help you play faster and for longer. Basically this technique is that your pretending the tip of the stick is a bouncy ball. You throw it down it comes back higher than where you threw it from. It takes ALOT of practice. I'm actually just getting taught it right nwo from my drum teacher. Its pretty tough but if you get it its great! Goodluck man |
Exactly... that helps a lot... and then throw in some strike pull doubles on the toms and your flying . _________________ Rick Kettner - DrumTechniques.com Support |
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Mutetalkinghead Pit Bull

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 351
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 9:58 am Post subject: |
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the problem with that is it effects clarity, yes you dont fatigue fast but if your trained in german grip (which is arguably the hardest thing to learn well) your strokes will be much clearer then any molar or gladstone techniques.
everyone should take the time to learn the german grip, and learn it well. once you have that down its alright to move on... but if you look at any amazing drum god (excluding jazz) they for the most part use german grip.
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rkettner Labrador
Joined: 06 Jan 2004 Posts: 306 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Mutetalkinghead wrote: | the problem with that is it effects clarity, yes you dont fatigue fast but if your trained in german grip (which is arguably the hardest thing to learn well) your strokes will be much clearer then any molar or gladstone techniques.
everyone should take the time to learn the german grip, and learn it well. once you have that down its alright to move on... but if you look at any amazing drum god (excluding jazz) they for the most part use german grip.
andrew |
The idea behind the gladstone techinque is that it can be played with any grip, is it not? _________________ Rick Kettner - DrumTechniques.com Support |
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