rock, funk, jazz drummers...who's better?

drumgod111285

there are a sh*tload of different styles out there and many drummers that play them. some play rock, others latin, some jazz, and still others play funk.

1. this might sound dumb to some of you, but out of all these styles, which has better drummers in your opinion (are funk drummers better than rock drummers)?

2. or which drummer would be more likely to pick up any style (could a funk drummer play rock, jazz, and latin)?
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twine10 · Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 7:10 am Post subject:

i think that all genres of styles have their fortes. it's kinda like comparing apples and oranges Smile

premier birch · Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 8:15 am Post subject:

yeah, they can't be compared.

MilkmanZ14 · Pit Bull Joined: 14 Aug 2002 Posts: 352

i'd like to say jazz drummers are more talented because it takes skill to do what they do, but also rock drummer like Mike Portnoy, (my favorite) have a tremendous amount of talent too. Sorry, but i don't think punk drummers have too much skill or some modern rock bands. Its mainly just pounding as loud as you can. My 2 cents
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twine10 · Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 6:31 am Post subject:

yeah, but you cant generalize a genre like that. for example, danny carey or mike portnoy have better chops than a lot of jazz drummers out there. all i'm saying is that all the genres have their strong points and a lot of drummers are mixed-genre as well.

Saurencaerthai · King Kong Joined: 24 Sep 2002 Posts: 2609

The main problem I see is this: what about the drummers that don't fall into any one catagory? Dennis Chambers has established himself in the funk field, yet he's done jazz and is playing for Carlos Santana. Billy Cobham does jazz, but he also does fusion, funk, and rock.

The fact of the matter is that you only can go on a personal level.

Drumgod111285, one of the issues with the statement "a rock drummer might not need as good of chops as a jazz drummer" is totally dependant on the drummer. If you compare Charlie Watts to Clarence Penn, that yet, it might work, but then you compare Neil Peart to Philly Joe Jones, and it becomes that much harder.

DamoSyzygy · Alley Cat Joined: 04 Jan 2004 Posts: 199

I see the whole argument as being based on choice. Players choose th type of drummers they wish to be and it doesnt depend on their ability. I have seen awesome jazz players who just cant cut it on the rock circuit and vice versa.

Punk, Rock and Funk I see as practically the same thing. Being good enough in any one of these areas would translate across into the other two quite adaquately.

I think the problem is that people who generate these kinds of questions see each style as being summed up in a single way - like saying jazz is triplets, rock is all 4/4 and funk is filled with ghost notes. Not suprisingly, its a lot more involved than that. There are elements of all styles that are very easy and very difficult.

A truly great drummer will be able to transcend the 'barriers' and implement ideas from one style into another to create a much broader pallette.
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TKO · Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 7:44 pm Post subject:

AMEN to that. Plus you guys are forgetting about double bass, which is sort of an entire new skill all in itself. Also, what about things like creativity: which style demands more? Or simple things like tempo and meter: in alot of styles this is much harder than others, and in some this may not even be the issue. The whole argument is just way to broad and opinionistic, so I'd say Damo summed it up the best.
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Drummin_Dan · Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 8:11 pm Post subject:

I believe there isn't a question of comparison, but the amount of skill each requires. Although I'll have to admit that radio rock is pretty bad, it's still a music style. Some people might like it. Sometimes I tend to get judgemental and make fun of bands who get signed who really can't play their instruments. Apples and oranges as was said.

neal79 · Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 10:53 pm Post subject:

To me the "best" drummer is the one who can add the most to the song.It really doesn't matter how techinal a part is if its the wrong part.It also doesn't matter if if its a simple part either as long is its the one that fits the song best.In other words there are no best drummers just good and bad drumers and maybe a few in the middle somewhere.

Mutetalkinghead · Pit Bull Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 351

i have the most respect for latin drummers. personally i think they are the best, but that might be because i need to work on my latin.

andrew

Saurencaerthai · King Kong Joined: 24 Sep 2002 Posts: 2609

hwbob · Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 3:04 pm Post subject:

I seen him do a clinic in goteburg he was amazing
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drumgod111285 · Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 3:32 pm Post subject: