Question on the snare piece "Three Camps" (Wilcoxo

Saurencaerthai · King Kong Joined: 24 Sep 2002 Posts: 2609

Hey all,

I'm having a bit of trouble interpreting the piece "Three camps" by Charles Wilcoxon. Particularly, I'm rather confused about the subdivisions, in the first half, since they don't appear to be adding up to the proper amount. This is further compounded by the fact that in the first measure, it begins with a quarter note, whereas the following measure contains the exactly same figure, but instead begins with a sixteenth note.

Can anyone shed some light on this?
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punkrocker7341 · Lion Joined: 23 May 2004 Posts: 926 Location: AZ

If you can scan it and e-mail me the trouble spots I might be able to help.
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[quote="Saurencaerthai"]Hey all,

I'm having a bit of trouble interpreting the piece "Three camps" by Charles Wilcoxon. Particularly, I'm rather confused about the subdivisions, in the first half, since they don't appear to be adding up to the proper amount. This is further compounded by the fact that in the first measure, it begins with a quarter note, whereas the following measure contains the exactly same figure, but instead begins with a sixteenth note.

Can anyone shed some light on this?[/quote]

I'm not familiar with that song or artist. It sounds like that's what exactly what they wanted- to trick the listener Wink

Hopefully someone here can help you, but the best bet is probably going to be the sheet music.
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gigeoffro · Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:07 pm Post subject:

I have the book at home. I'll look it up tonight when I get off work and let you know.
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gigeoffro · Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:04 pm Post subject:

Which Wilcoxen book is this from? It's not in the book I have. sorry dude, but if you can scan it and post it, I'm sure that I can help you with it.
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PTCR · Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:42 pm Post subject:

Three Camps is mad good. My ex-drum-teacher (RIP Tony DeNicola) told me that in one war or another three different camps would maintain contact through this. One snare drummer would initiate it, playing the first section of the piece(most likely in the early morning). Another camp from far away would hear this and then begin signaling the second piece, and then so on with the third camp. This was used to show that the camps were safe, and for example, not under enemy fire.

it's nice to know that someone on this forum plays this stuff Smile

it would help to know which version you're talking about though. wilcoxon has written out many versions of it, from triplets to ratamacues to pataflaflas, you name it. I think the version you are probably thinking of is based off the 5-stroke and the 9-stroke roll? anyway, a lot of wilcoxon books have typos and i really cant make heads or tails of your problem. this reply is more of a reason to give a little background on this historical piece.

Saurencaerthai · King Kong Joined: 24 Sep 2002 Posts: 2609

Drummin_Dan · Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:58 pm Post subject:

Three Camps is definitely weird. I was taught to interpret it in a triplet feel and the accents are the downbeats. I do recall the weirdness of the writing.