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goldeneyes
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:26 pm    Post subject: need some recommendations Reply with quote

I want to get my bf a electronic drum set for his bday in Nov. I know that is like forever from now, but I need to slowly save up, since I know that they can be pricy! I have heard him say to others how he has always wanted one! He already has a normal kind. He has been drumming for over 22 yrs and is pretty good at it. I think he would love it because he just quit his band and lives in an apt so now cant drum as much as he would like. I think getting this for him will shock and totally surprize him ...hopefully...lol

Does anyone know where I could look or recommend any good ones...being as my bf is well aware of all things drums, I dont want to get him cheapo no name crap! I want to make it as if I put some thought into it and get him some good stuff. I know I cant get him top of the line, but I want a name brand of some kind.

I am pretty dumb and dont know jack about anything other than what a cymbal is...lol...

any help would help tons!!!!!!!!!

thx guys!!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recently bought a Roland TD-9SX V-Tour kit from Guitar Center for practice purposes and I absolutely love it. I've been drumming for about 20 years and my real kit is 40 minutes away so I wanted something to practice on at home.

It IS pricy though...$2,500.00 + tax and that price is WITHOUT a drum throne (seat) or bass drum pedal. I also remember hearing that the price will soon go up an extra $400.00 since everything metal/rubber/plastic is going up in price.

Here is a link to guitar centers collection:
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Drum-Sets-Electronic-Drums.gc?o=2

I strongly recommend getting a kit with MESH heads...thats the soft kind of head you can adjust rather than the black, stiff rubber kind. Although the black, stiff rubber kind will save you $700 for pretty much the same kit. That's the Roland TD-9S V-Tour.

I personally believe that anything less than $1,000 is too cheap. I don't believe they will last as long as the ones double the price. The expensive ones have a better selection of sounds you can use.

You can get a guitar center credit card and pay it in monthly installments...but then you're paying interest on top of it. Guitar Center was running a special of NO interest for 15 months so I paid for it with the GC credit card but that special has expired already.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he has no intention of buying one, and you have a good amount of money to spoil your b/f, go for it.

Personaly I invested around $4,000 into my TD-12 Roland kit and it is irreplaceable, living in an apartment and laying low noise-wise.

If he's a serious player- and has talked about buying one, you really should think about not buying him an electronic kit. let him decide his own path.

If money is no object, go ahead and buy him the Roland TD-20. Very Happy Don't forget about ride cymbal upgrades, etc etc Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yamaha, even though im not a fan of the company, seems to make pretty good electronic drums, and are cheaper then the rolands, so look into those
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a roland TD-12 and I love it. if he already has a regular kit and your not looking to spend $2000 + on an electronic one, consider getting him mutes (pads that go over his real drums). I have lived in an appartment for 3 years and have yet to have anyone complain about my regular kit being to loud with the mutes on. But if your set on an electronic kit, go with Roland. I did a lot of research and test drives on electronic kits and they are by far the best. But you gotta go mesh heads (the material kind as opposed to the rubber pads)!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the only thing i have against mes, is its too springy, no drumhead ive seen is like that, like just a begginer, can do a double stroke roll over the toms, while lets see them do it in real life.
thats the only thing i dont like with the mesh
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tylerdrummer wrote:
the only thing i have against mes, is its too springy, no drumhead ive seen is like that, like just a begginer, can do a double stroke roll over the toms, while lets see them do it in real life.
thats the only thing i dont like with the mesh


and you don't think the rubber pads are more "springy"? I think the pads have way more rebound
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tylerdrummer wrote:
the only thing i have against mes, is its too springy, no drumhead ive seen is like that, like just a begginer, can do a double stroke roll over the toms, while lets see them do it in real life.
thats the only thing i dont like with the mesh


takes one to know one.

Actually I think "real" drums have better more accurate rebound and are more playable than mesh. But mesh are much closer than those hard rubber ones to the real thing.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks #evil so you dont think im a real drummer?
my point is
if you walk into a guitar center, you could see a five year old that just picked up his first pair of sticks, and can do doubles, around the mesh heads. im not saying rubber is better, because they are pretty springy, but thats just a statement i made, and I CAN do doubles around all of my toms, and on my bass with my feet
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tylerdrummer wrote:
thanks #evil so you dont think im a real drummer?
my point is
if you walk into a guitar center, you could see a five year old that just picked up his first pair of sticks, and can do doubles, around the mesh heads. im not saying rubber is better, because they are pretty springy, but thats just a statement i made, and I CAN do doubles around all of my toms, and on my bass with my feet


Sometimes your opinions make me think you are a beginner. Do you really think e-drums magically allow people to play percussion instruments that have never touched sticks before? Thats one of the silliest things I thnk I've read from you (so far)

My 2 year old neice who never touched a drum stick in her life could do a double stroke roll around a drum set. would it sound ok? hell no. But she could and I bet you could too. So you're as proficient as my neice!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i didnt say magically, but there is no doubt they are hell of springy and whatever the *Golly Gee* you want say, beginners can do alot more on mesh heads, then on REAL drum heads, and if you dont think im a drummer then thats your problem, i could care a less cause you have never seen me play.

anywho, youve been messing up the original subject,
e-drums ARE good drums, yet pretty pricey, but definatly worth the money if you have it.
Yamaha electrics are pretty decent drums, i like them alot and have played them alot more then v-drums but they do have rubber heads, and are cheaper usually then v-drums
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i agree that it is easier to do doubles on an electronic kit, and yes a beginner may find it easier to play the electronic kit than the 'real' kit, but someone who has played drums for 22 years is not a beginner so this possibility is irrelevant.

the mesh heads are a lot nicer to play than the flat rubber things, and they have rims too so they better simulate an acoustic set. i think a drummer as experienced as your boyfriend would, if they were looking to buy an electronic kit for themselves, be looking for the mesh head kind

it's definately worth spending a lot on, if only for the better quality rubber cymbals, the cheap ones at my local music shop feel and sound horrible to play
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tylerdrummer wrote:
the only thing i have against mes, is its too springy, no drumhead ive seen is like that, like just a begginer, can do a double stroke roll over the toms, while lets see them do it in real life.
thats the only thing i dont like with the mesh


No way. I have mesh heads on my practice kit and besides anything other than a real drumhead, it's the best approximation of what mylar feels like. Not only that, but I'm pretty sure cloth absorbs more energy than plastic, no matter how you look at it. The rebound is slightly different, but it definitely rebounds less than an equally tensioned mylar drumhead.

I really don't want to sound mean here, but please take your blinders off, look around a bit, and check your facts before making a fool of yourself.

Edit: Now to help the OP a little. It depends on your price range, really, but once you're out of a certain price range you can't go wrong with Roland or Yamaha. Personally I'd go with Roland. Depending on your price range, a Roland TD-20, TD-12, TD-9, or if you can find it in clearance or secondhand (in fact if you can find it secondhand, get it), the TD-6. The TD-3 is a good set if you really can't spend more, but I wouldn't go lower than that.

I'm not that familiar with electronic drums, so this is just based on the very few electronic kits I've played in music stores and hearsay.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep in mind that you can change the tension on mesh heads with a drum key and make it as loose or tight as you want. I purposely made my electronic kit the same tension as my real kit for accurate practice.

But yes...it is irrelevant for a drummer of 22 years.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with tyler for the most part... not comparing them against rubber electronics, but regular drums. You would have to tune anything over a 14" tom very tight to even get close to the feel of the mesh. I suppose you could loosen up the Roland's...

I played one in a previous band at all practices at the guitar player's house. They belonged to him. I played accoustic when we played live.

Just bought a set of Rolands, should ship soon from MF.
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