Playin live

Skeeter · Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:27 am Post subject: Playin live

do you guys generally use mostly rimshots on backbeats when playin live?
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tylerdrummer · Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:05 am Post subject:

no, but i hit the drums, whats the point behind this question, if every0one else is louder then you tell them to turn the amps down

phantompong · Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:08 am Post subject:

Tyler. I hate to say this, but you're a n00b.

You might actually learn something if, instead of shooting your mouth off with stupid and disrespectful answers, you tried to honour the questions people ask and figured out what they're actually asking, and then waiting for an answer from someone else if you don't know the answer.

Your "what's the point behind this question" sounds like you think you're taking a test and waving off the questions as if they're beneath you. They're not, as you have so clearly demonstrated by your own lack of understanding.

Chew on this - a gig, amps are mic'ed and soundchecked, you are not. Maybe you brought the wrong snare, or whatever, but your snare isn't projecting like the rest of the kit. What do you do - tell everyone else to turn down? And this is just one scenario - I'm sure there are many examples, including those where rimshots and regular snare hits are differentiated tonally, not just by volume.

Skeeter: I generally go with backbeats (I don't really play live though). No reason other than I feel more comfortable that way.
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tylerdrummer · Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:34 am Post subject:

im not a noob, ive giged quite a bit.
and the whole whats the points merely a question, i think sometimes people think too much, thats pretty *Holy Censor, Batman* stupid to say that to a teacher about a test, but it would be nice to know what hes tlking about.
ive played a few gigs with mics on my drums, and a few without mics, and when you play with the mics its easier, but its time consuming to set up.
without mics i usually tell my band to turn some of the stuff down so they could hear my snare(and i dont muffle anything so its loud on its own) and then we play from there, and every time ive said it, im sure the other 3 people in the band arent that pissy to not do it

Rasta · Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:48 am Post subject:

random white person · Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:09 pm Post subject:

i personally wouldn't use rimshots on every backbeat. if you're playing everything with the volume turned up to 10 (figuratively speaking) then where do you have to go from there? well... maybe 11, but seriously. usually you can get things mixed so you dont have to play crazy loud to be heard live, but obviously it can be difficult especially when your drums aren't mic'ed up.
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bytor · Admin Joined: 12 Aug 2003 Posts: 5306 Location: Kansas

I think this is completely dependent upon the situation. Are their mics on the kit? If not, how loud is the band? How large is the venue? Inside or outside? What style of music is being played? There are too many variables here to make a firm statement.

sbowman128675 · Lion King Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 1072

i use rim shots for the sound i get outa my snare. i like a nise punchy ring to my snare.
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007david · Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:20 pm Post subject:

I play whatever I normally play. If everyone else is too loud for the venue we'll have caught that at soundcheck and either turn everything else down, or dig up the drum mics.
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The549 · Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 5:01 pm Post subject:

wat u do is u dont use rimshts wen the mic u up so u can b loudr wen ur band start plaing.
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Tam · Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 2:38 pm Post subject:

Staying to topic, rimshots are great for country-style rock and some rock, but usually they are best, IMO, for a quick punctuation at certain breaks or crescendo/declamation cues for the band to know that's where we are.

I'm kinda with viper, my snare never had a problem being sent out {except for large hall, like one bro. mentioned, which is a very valid point} sans a mic.

Actually, I tend to hear rimshots primarily in jazz, solos {mic.ed}, over other genres. BUT, play it if it sounds right, no matter what.
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