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stixstringzzz
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:21 pm    Post subject: Clear or coated heads. Reply with quote

Hi all..

First post here. Glad I found the place.

I'm still not 100% sure what the difference is between clear and coated heads? I'm using Pearl EXR toms and kick. he guy in the drum shop told me that clear heads are the best for this type of drum?

Thanks.

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bamboo
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The guy in the drum shop doesn't know *Poop*.
It's all down to preference really.

from the drum tuning bible -
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o Coated heads will be warmer and minimize high frequency tones. The stick slap has a very bright element to it, much like sandpaper rubbing together, but the main element is darker in tone. Coated is probably required if doing brushwork. What follows are general observations and you should try them all to see if you hear or experience and differences? Coatings vary depending upon manufacturer. Some manufacturers have created heads which give then a very unique sound and wear characteristic. By way of example, REMO offers the Renaissance™ or Suede™ series which gives the head sort of a less resonant but midrange presence to the sound, whereas the FiberSkyn™ heads have a much more mellow tone to them. Coatings from brand to brand not only offer a sound that separates one brand from another, but wear characteristics are affected as well. In most cases, REMO will be a warmer coating at the expense of faster wear on normal WEATHERKING™ drum heads like that found of the Diplomat™, Ambassador™, Emperor™, etc. However heads like the FiberSkyn™ may potentially last less or longer because a lot of this has to do with your style of play. Heads like the REMO Suede™ series and Evans J1™ have an embossed textured surface, thus longer life and do not chip like normal coating would. To my ear, Aquarian is on the brighter end of the scale for presence but their coating will outlast most everyone else’s and is also thinner and a bit smoother. Evan’s sort of strikes a medium balance between REMO and Aquarian. Keep an open mind because manufacturers are improving their lines all the time.

o Clear heads are bright with overtones, the stick slap does not have bright sandpaper like characteristics as found on coated heads, but the overall presence of the slap is very bright in the upper register and carries through the mix very well.
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tylerdrummer
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

under every good coated head is a clear head Smile
i like clear better but i like to not have my toms sound like there dampend to all get out.
but ive played with both and they do sound good.
just go try some out and dont go in with, im going to get clear or im going to get coated only, be open minded and just pick what sounds best for you
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coated is best for snares I think because with coated heads you get more of a similar sound as you go to the edge from the middle as apposed to the clear heads, but it's all personal preference. I've noticed that coated heads tend to have a warmer tone to it.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

coated heads gives more of a warm sound to the drum...they work best for maple shells i find.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

coated sound good on oak too. you should also check out remos fiberskins. nice fat sound
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer coated, not only for sound, i think they look better too.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only real way you are going to know is to go buy both types.

Just a note before carrying on. I pretty much use Remo Clear Pinstripes as (to me) they sound good on any drum. But never really getting a true test with my own ears in my own home and gigging domains, the only way I was going to understand heads was to pay for an education, so to speak.

What I did, was purchase a set of Remo Ambassadors coated and a set of Evans G1 clears. I took both sets home and proceeded to replace the current heads with one set. Gave them a week or two to fully seat and recorded the sound as well as video'd it so I could get a level playing field.

Then when I felt I'd gotten my ear full I would switch out the heads to the other style and repeat the break in period. You will find, different kits work best with different heads even if you are dealing with the same shell material.

You have to experiment to really know what you are getting in to. Everyone here can tell you all their opinions but you in the end will be the final judge of what YOU like best.

The following is my opinion based on my experiences. Your result will most definitely differ but will not be wrong. You will have earned your opinions by your experiences, just as every one else has. But, none the less it's an experience you really should take if you plan on drumming for many years, seriously.

My ddrums are maple and sound best with Remo Clear Pinstripes and an Evans G2 coated for the snare....go figure.

My Mapex Saturns are maple and walnut and I have yet to find the best sounding heads for them. Currently they have Remo Clear Pinstripes and of all the drums, the 12" sounds the most like I expect a high end set to sound. The factory singly ply coated head for the snare is still on, so I'm pleased with it's sound. But I still chasing 'my sound' with those drums. The next head change out is due soon and I have a set of Remo Coated Ambassadors ready to go.

I have wholeheartedly fallen madly in love with my SONORs, again another maple kit but using Remo Coated Ambassadors for the toms and snare. They ring and sing perfectly but won't dominate a small venue. These are currently my set for gigging.

My Pearl Masters Customs are maple and they sound best with Evans G1 clears. The bonus here is seeing through the drum and loving the contrast of the black lug hardware against the maple shells....Smile

Finally, my PDP Platinums have sounded the best with the DW factory heads which (I think) are clear single ply heads but with a built in dampener coated stripe around the edges.

So let me close by saying that you will have to experiment with your drums and the different head styles to know how each interacts with your drums and what is the best acceptable sound to your ears.
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