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Ugly Man On Parade Grizzly Bear

Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 720 Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:06 pm Post subject: Ride Technique Question |
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Hey Guys!
So I just watched this video, and during the chorus the drummer is doing something crazy with his ride cymbal, and I want to do it! If you have the time check it out! The female lead singer is also pretty smokin hot.
http://www.mtv.ca/?vid=276654
Could anyone enlighten me on what kind of technique he is using and how I could achieve a similar sound??
Thanks! _________________ Destruction of The Poor Is Poverty, Destruction of The Soul Is Vanity |
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tylerdrummer Lion King

Joined: 22 Jun 2007 Posts: 1250 Location: California, F
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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| i cant see it because im not canadian |
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sbowman128675 Lion King
Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 1072
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Ugly Man On Parade Grizzly Bear

Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 720 Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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| tylerdrummer wrote: | | i cant see it because im not canadian |
HA! That sucks man, I can't use pandora radio or a lot of the TV watching sites online because I'm not American! I thought this was the world wide web where there were no boundaries.
I know, I wish the camera would show him from the behind angle while he was playing it!!
Either way it sounds effing awesome!! _________________ Destruction of The Poor Is Poverty, Destruction of The Soul Is Vanity |
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Exzilibus Labrador

Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 322 Location: Suffern, New York
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I can't watch it either (not Canadian) but since its the SOUND you want to recreate...is there any way to post a link to just the SONG instead of the video?? Its Canada-only because of copyright reasons so this may not be possible but worth attempting for the valuable information that may follow. _________________ www.myspace.com/thenewaffliction
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Ugly Man On Parade Grizzly Bear

Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 720 Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:21 am Post subject: |
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Actually, the CD is coming out on the 26th, the show they were playing happened to be songs from the upcoming CD, just my luck.
After watching those videos, it seems as though he' using the moeller technique, where he's getting 2 hits out of one motion, check out the first link!!
ILL still be sure to post the song when it comes out. _________________ Destruction of The Poor Is Poverty, Destruction of The Soul Is Vanity |
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Rasta Fierce Wolf

Joined: 11 Jul 2007 Posts: 591 Location: Minnesota
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:10 am Post subject: Re: Ride Technique Question |
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| Ugly Man On Parade wrote: | Hey Guys!
So I just watched this video, and during the chorus the drummer is doing something crazy with his ride cymbal, and I want to do it! If you have the time check it out! The female lead singer is also pretty smokin hot.
http://www.mtv.ca/?vid=276654
Could anyone enlighten me on what kind of technique he is using and how I could achieve a similar sound??
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I can't watch the vid either, but I'm guessing dude is doing fast, clear strokes on the ride.
It's known as proper technique.
"Push-Pull" method is supposed to be used with any drum grip, be it traditional, standard, or german/french.
The idea is to use the natural bounce of the stick efficiantly, so the drummer uses as little energy as possible.
| Quote: | | After watching those videos, it seems as though he' using the moeller technique, where he's getting 2 hits out of one motion, check out the first link!! |
As a point of accuracy, moeller refers to the grip of the sticks (ie aka: traditional grip), and not getting two strokes out of one motion.
Getting two strokes out of one motion is called a double stroke. You can also do triple strokes using the same idea.
What you want to focus on, if this is your goal, is to get fast, clear strokes. To do this, you need to practise proper technique. _________________ A groove is a terrible thing to waste!  |
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drummerb0y25 Big Lion

Joined: 12 Jan 2004 Posts: 957 Location: ^^ ..rofl
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 1:15 am Post subject: Re: Ride Technique Question |
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| Rasta wrote: | | Ugly Man On Parade wrote: | Hey Guys!
So I just watched this video, and during the chorus the drummer is doing something crazy with his ride cymbal, and I want to do it! If you have the time check it out! The female lead singer is also pretty smokin hot.
http://www.mtv.ca/?vid=276654
Could anyone enlighten me on what kind of technique he is using and how I could achieve a similar sound??
Thanks! |
I can't watch the vid either, but I'm guessing dude is doing fast, clear strokes on the ride.
It's known as proper technique.
"Push-Pull" method is supposed to be used with any drum grip, be it traditional, standard, or german/french.
The idea is to use the natural bounce of the stick efficiantly, so the drummer uses as little energy as possible.
| Quote: | | After watching those videos, it seems as though he' using the moeller technique, where he's getting 2 hits out of one motion, check out the first link!! |
As a point of accuracy, moeller refers to the grip of the sticks (ie aka: traditional grip), and not getting two strokes out of one motion.
Getting two strokes out of one motion is called a double stroke. You can also do triple strokes using the same idea.
What you want to focus on, if this is your goal, is to get fast, clear strokes. To do this, you need to practise proper technique. |
No, Moeller stroke is using looseness and fluid motions, transferring energy from fingers to forearm to upper arm to efficiently transfer the expended energy. Maybe that sounds pompous but it's the best explanation. Moeller has nothing to do with grip, either. It can be utilized the same way as the push-pull and can be used in either grip.
The "proper" technique you'er talking about might be orignally by Bill Gladstone. it is based upon a single stroke, then and allowing the stick to rebound back up to the desired height without actually lifting the stick up. Also maybe better known as the free stroke.
A double stroke is more easily executed, depending on the context, based on a push-pull or moeller execution! Infact any beginner I've taught the double-stroke roll to always intiatally learns to accent the second stroke - therefore automatically instilling the natural push-pull technique that is required to accent the second stroke. _________________ "The more control you have of the instrument, the more confidence you will get and the more you will be able to express your ideas; Technique is only good if you can use it musically." -J.M. |
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