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henhog
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 Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:07 pm Post subject: Burying your cymbals |
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Hey
Just wanted to know everyone's thoughts on burying cymbals. I have done it before to some old staggs i had. In buried a 17" crash for 3 months but it didn't really work because its brilliant finish protected it somewhat. I then buried a regular 20" ride for 3 month and i dug it up today and its sounding a bit darker and dryer, so i reburied it again. Just wondering if anybody else has tried it and what your results were.
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gav
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wait...what?
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Bish
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Just be sure the dog doesn't find it first, uncover it and give it to the neighbor.
Burying your cymbals????
*What the Heck*????
You should give them to a drummer if you are going to bury them. 
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edgewood_drummer92
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I've heard of that. My old drum teacher told me about it. He said that some drummers do it to age the cymbal quicker and other stuff.
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bytor
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| I suspect there is something to this. Microorganisms would very slowly chew away at the oxidized metal, removing a small amount of it and making the cymbal that much thinner. This, in effect, would make the cymbal drier and more responsive. I think the oxidation and metal removal would take several months--maybe up to a year--before any difference would be discernible, though. The length of time necessary would depend on several factors, such as the moisture content and pH of the soil. |
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styles2281
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I've heard of it too, but I would worry about my cymbals being out in the dirt (being crushed...or stolen). A Customs aren't really meant to be buried anyways...nice and shiny!!!
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edgewood_drummer92
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dirt and other non-oily stuff doesn't really stick to cymbals with a brilliant finish I think. Oh... and if you don't want to lose it, remember where you buried it, and if you don't want it stolen, bury it at night. lol
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phantompong
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| bytor wrote: | | I suspect there is something to this. Microorganisms would very slowly chew away at the oxidized metal, removing a small amount of it and making the cymbal that much thinner. This, in effect, would make the cymbal drier and more responsive. I think the oxidation and metal removal would take several months--maybe up to a year--before any difference would be discernible, though. The length of time necessary would depend on several factors, such as the moisture content and pH of the soil. |
Spoken like a true chemist/biochemist/microbiologist/whatever it is you've got your PhD in, lol...
The way I think of it is simply, dirt -> patina -> drier cymbal.
Or, well, now that you mention it - oxidation is part of the cymbal ageing process, so if you could speed up the oxidation process, you could get a cymbal to sound "aged" faster. Although I wouldn't be able to quantify what "aged" sounds like.
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bytor
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| phantompong wrote: | | bytor wrote: | | I suspect there is something to this. Microorganisms would very slowly chew away at the oxidized metal, removing a small amount of it and making the cymbal that much thinner. This, in effect, would make the cymbal drier and more responsive. I think the oxidation and metal removal would take several months--maybe up to a year--before any difference would be discernible, though. The length of time necessary would depend on several factors, such as the moisture content and pH of the soil. |
Spoken like a true chemist/biochemist/microbiologist/whatever it is you've got your PhD in, lol...
The way I think of it is simply, dirt -> patina -> drier cymbal.
Or, well, now that you mention it - oxidation is part of the cymbal ageing process, so if you could speed up the oxidation process, you could get a cymbal to sound "aged" faster. Although I wouldn't be able to quantify what "aged" sounds like. |
Heh, right. Sorry about the science lingo. Yes, I think it's basically a way to make a cymbal drier through oxidation and bacterial degradation. It would be a slow process, though. |
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The549
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I tried doing that years ago - it didn't work. I think most cymbals have a lacquer to prevent it. I'd suggest a metal brush and some diluted chemicals to really start the oxidation faster. If you want to be hardcore, like me. 
Didn't the Canadians use horse urine (uric acid) for their government building domes? At least that's what they tell stupid Americans.
So that's right, bury, and pee. How about every day for a fortnight or so? And why don't you let us know how it goes?
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gdawson44
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| Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 7:02 am Post subject: Re: Burying your cymbals |
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| henhog wrote: | Hey
Just wanted to know everyone's thoughts on burying cymbals.
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I think it's a terrible idea. You can make cymbals sound trashier simply by placing tape on them at various points. You could also purchase a lesser line of cymbals to achieve that sound. |
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earthquake
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I don't think the electronics on mine would appreciate it 
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