Metronome settings

jak · Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 5:25 pm Post subject: Metronome settings

Does anyone know what bpm to set a metronome at for the following?

whole notes

half notes

quarter notes

eighth notes

sixteenth notes

thirdysecondth notes

Thanks

Saurencaerthai · King Kong Joined: 24 Sep 2002 Posts: 2609

Whatever you're trying to accomplish. Sometimes, at faster tempos I'll set the metronome value to half of what I'm trying to achieve so I can count easier. I might use the click on beats two and four when I'm doing Jazz. Much of the time, though, I just use a quarter note click.

jak · Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 5:42 pm Post subject:

My metronome isnt exactly a store bought metronome its just built into my guitar proccesor and doesnt have any special setting for 1/2 notes etc it just has beats per minute

I think when you first turn on the metronome feature it is automaticaly set to 120 bpm I suppose that 120 bpm is equal to quarter notes but im not shure, because it only has a range of 40-240 bpm which would mean it could only go up to 8th notes.

The reason Im wanting to use a metronome is because Ive only been playing drums for like 2 weeks and am having trouble hitting 16th notes on bass while the rest of the pattern is in 1/8th notes, heres the pattern im trying to play, you probobly couldnt make heads or tails of what I was saying about the 16th notes on the bass Very Happy

C-x---------------------------------------
R------x---x---x----x---x---x---x-------
S-----------o-----------------o-----------
B-o----------------o-o-------------------
H-----------x-----------------x-----------
---1---&----2---&-a-3---&---4---&------

Sorry its such a crappy tab Laughing

But Anyways see where the bass drum hits one after another, thats what im having trouble with.

Saurencaerthai · King Kong Joined: 24 Sep 2002 Posts: 2609

My metronome has no specific note divisions, actually. It just gives the click in BPM, just like yours. The click is just the pulse, but how I want to divide it is up to me. Let me clarify: When I play fast, I sometimes set the click to half the speed that I'm playing at. For example, setting the click to 100 if I'm playing at 200. When I play Jazz, I might count it so that it only clicks on my 2 and 4 along with my hihat. (again, this all has to do with when I come in.) Other times, when it's an issue of very specific subdivision, I might set the metronome to a speed equal to the 16th notes I'm playing.

Clarify?

jak · Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 8:05 pm Post subject:

But how do you know how many beats you are playing per minute.

Mutetalkinghead · Pit Bull Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 351

um... what are you asking? why do you need to know how many beats your playing per minute. it all depends what value you set as the click... sometimes i set the click at like 50 and play at 75 bpm to strengthen 3 aganst two time feel.

your question really makes no sense.... take a single drum lesson with a half decent teacher then ask again.

jak · Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 6:38 pm Post subject:

What im asking is what bpm do I set the metronome to so that each click would be and 8th or a 16th note apart.

If you still dont know what im talking about then I guess I just dont know what a metronome is for, I have never used one before because when I play guitar I just play along with the song to get the timing right therefore I have never needed one.

Can you please clarify how a metronome is used, I always assumed that their was a dessignated bpm for each note value (IE 120bpm could mean 1/4th notes 60 bpm would mean 1/2 notes etc.) but what im understanding from what you are all saying is that I set the metronome to how fast I want to play and just play along with the clicks but I dont see how this will help me if I dont know If im playing in 64th notes or quarter notes.

As for lessons I dont have the money for them, I think their are only 2 places in my town that give drum lessons, all the people that work in the one place or total A-holes and the other place is wanting 150 BUCKS for 5 LESSONS heck you can get golf lessons at the COUNTRY CLUB for only like 30 bucks and thats for like 4 lessons.

Being a self taught guitarist I think I can teach myself how to play drums but I might need a little help from you guys so please bear with me im a #Newbie

MilkmanZ14 · Pit Bull Joined: 14 Aug 2002 Posts: 352

ok, heres a hopefully helpful tip. You don't change your metronome when you're playing, cuz thats just silly (hehe). you have to set the clicks to the quarter note, and in your head, divide it into eight notes, then do the one e and uhs to divide into 16th notes, to make half notes, its 2 clicks and to make whole notes its 4. Very very simple, you just have to be able to do it in your head.
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jak · Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:59 pm Post subject:

Ah I see now so I dont need to have the metronome clicking for each 16th note just for qaurter notes.

Now the only problem is how do I know my metronome is set for qaurter notes or do just set it to how fast I want to play the peice

Im begging to think a metronome is to help you keep in time with yourself not to show you how fast a peice is played, am I right

StupendousMan · Hamster Joined: 12 Mar 2004 Posts: 85 Location: Maryland

metronome is for speed.

u could have each "click" be a quarter note, eigth note, etc...

think about it this way, most songs are not played at the exact same tempo...its not like a quarter note is the same in every piece of music. so it wouldnt be logical for the metronome to be like that, right?

therefore, u use it to ur needs for speed.

i hope i wasnt too confusing.
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jak · Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 9:04 pm Post subject:

Not confusing at all in fact I now see why no one knew what I was talking about lol

Now that I think about it even though a note is marked as a 4th note it can be played as fast as you want as long as it keeps in time with the other notes in the passage ie if you are playing the 4th notes at twice the usual speed you will also have to play all other notes at twice the speed

Thanks for all the help I guess I "get it" now Laughing

Now I just need to practice that passage slow and work my way up to playing it at its full speed.

holycow · Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 3:12 pm Post subject:

Mutetalkinghead · Pit Bull Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 351

dude, you went on

" Oh and by the way my dads grandmother is worth over 2 million plus my dad has 2 bank accounts with about 400,000 in one and about 150,000 in other, and if you dont beleive me maybe you should spend some money on stock instead of blink 182's chickensh$t"

im sure you have enough for a few drum lessons...

my parents make about 60 thousand a year each (they are split up so there supporting two houses) and i manage to come up with enough for two lessons a week... thats 85 bucks a week, and the skill it gave me got me 9000$ dollars a year to berklee. dont underestemate the power of the drum lesson...

i was self taught till about 8 months ago... and 8 months ago there was no way i was getting a scholarship.

"Now that I think about it even though a note is marked as a 4th note it can be played as fast as you want as long as it keeps in time with the other notes in the passage ie if you are playing the 4th notes at twice the usual speed you will also have to play all other notes at twice the speed"

no you dont get it... if you were playing 16 notes inbetween each click they would be 16th notes... not quadrupled 4th notes.

to actually answer your question...its going click click click click they could each have a whole note value, therefor it would be 1... 1... 1... 1... if they had a half note value it would be 1...3...1...3... and a quarter note value would be 1...2...3...4... an eighth note value would be 1...+...2...+... 16th notes 1...e...+...a..., etc... it all depends how you count it.

p.s. now whos the one that doesent know what a metronome is for. Do some research before you start coming to a drum forum and throwing around such harsh insults.

jak · Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 10:43 pm Post subject:

Yeah I did say this
" Oh and by the way my dads grandmother is worth over 2 million plus my dad has 2 bank accounts with about 400,000 in one and about 150,000 in other, and if you dont beleive me maybe you should spend some money on stock instead of blink 182's chickensh$t"

But I also said this
"just because I said My dad has like 600,000 in accounts and that my grandma is worth over 2 million doesnt mean that its in cash just sitting around waiting to be spent, In fact cash wise their is only about 300,000 between my family and my grandma the rest is sock, bonds, and trusts."

And If you read back I never said you didnt know how to use a metronome I said " If you still dont know what im talking about then I guess I just dont know what a metronome is for" so I downt know why you are saying "p.s. now whos the one that doesent know what a metronome is for"

As far as drum lessons go I doubt my parents are gonna pay for them and their is now way I can afford them until I get a job (hopefully in a couple months)

I dont know what harsh comments you are speaking of but if you are talking about the ones from teh blick 182 thread I already appologized for the a while back

And If I unknowingly pissed you off then I applogise and I hope everything is cool between us Cool

But anyways back to the topic

I think I now get the concept of a metronome so here goes nothing, First I set the bpm to how fast I want it to click then I decide what beat I want each click to be on (I.E. Click e&a Cick e&a or click & click & etc.) Then I start playing along with the clicks counting the &'s and e&a's in my head then I gradually increase the bpm to build up speed so I can play that passage at a normal rate or faster if I desire.

And yes i could have did some research before posting my question but I didnt feel like wading through hundreds of website to find no usefull info.

oh and
P.s Maybe you should read more carefully before you post harsh comments.--------- Just Kidding Wink

Mutetalkinghead · Pit Bull Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 351

if you have money in accounts.... its in accounts not in the stock market. therefor your comment makes no sense.