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acidbass Little Guppy
Joined: 18 Feb 2004 Posts: 31 Location: Omagh, Northern Ireland
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 12:37 pm Post subject: Expanding |
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Ok, so a guy has a 5 piece drum kit, with basic sizes of toms, a normal snare and a bass drum. Cymbals wise, he plays Hi Hats, an 16" crash and a 20" ride.
Any recommendations for expansions or additions to his kit, either to the actual drums or cymbals? The guy plays metal music and wants to expand his improvising options and scope for making up new drum rhythms, and of course the potential to show-off is also increased
Any suggestions of extras for his kit?
Thanks in advance for any replies! |
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Jonesie67 Growing Lion

Joined: 26 Dec 2003 Posts: 877 Location: Massachusetts
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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8", 10", 14" , and 18" toms. Remo Roto-Toms, Octobans, more crashes, splashes, chinas, 2nd bass drum _________________ Yamaha SCA
9x10, 10x12, 12x14, 16x16, 17x22
6x14 Pork Pie Snare
Zildjian: A Custom 19" Crash, A 14" New Beat Hats, A 16" Medium Thin Crash, A 10" Splash, A 20" Medium Ride
Sabian: AAX 18" Studio CrashHHX 20" Stage Ride
18" Wuhan China |
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shaneohack Growing Lion

Joined: 27 May 2003 Posts: 899 Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 12:15 am Post subject: |
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Do you feel you creativity is being strangled by your current set up? Some things to consider; how much money do you have to spend, and what do you think you would want more at this point, cymbals or drums. You may want to add another floor tom or another snare, maybe a dbl pedal, but I think you should add some more cymbals, i.e another crash, a splash, and if you have the money, a china. Let us know what you decide. _________________ That was Zen, this is Tao.
A friend will help you move, but a best friend will help you move a body. |
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Premier Artist Wolf

Joined: 11 Sep 2003 Posts: 546 Location: Sundsvall, Sweden
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 6:14 am Post subject: |
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| Jonesie67 wrote: | | Octobans |
Yesss! Excellent suggestion! I'm thinking of getting me some octobans myself.
Also, a second snare drum is always a good thing to have around. A 10", 12" or a piccolo snare just for FX's, it's a blast.
...and of course, one can NEVER have too many splashes!  _________________ My Premier Artist Maple set! |
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jak Lion King

Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Posts: 1084 Location: On my azz
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 9:11 am Post subject: |
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| How do octobans sound. |
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Premier Fierce Wolf

Joined: 15 Feb 2004 Posts: 550 Location: South Portland, Maine
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 9:41 am Post subject: |
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| jak wrote: | | How do octobans sound. |
Listen to the beginning of Pink Floyd's Time, those are Octobans. Portnoy uses them a lot also. 8 - 6" heads , different lenth tube like drums , tuned to different notes.
If this link works you can go here and play Portnoys kit and hear how they sound.
http://www.mikeportnoy.com/monster/?menu=interact |
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The Hellion Tadpole

Joined: 01 Jun 2004 Posts: 16 Location: Finland
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Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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| I hate splashes i think they are useless but thats just what i think!.....go for a 17" or 18" crash to your right just over the ride that rocks!!! |
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bytor Admin

Joined: 12 Aug 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Kansas
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 8:35 am Post subject: |
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| The Hellion wrote: | | I hate splashes i think they are useless but thats just what i think!.....go for a 17" or 18" crash to your right just over the ride that rocks!!! |
No splashes? That would make me sad.  |
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007david Deputy Grammar Nazi

Joined: 26 Feb 2004 Posts: 2494 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:49 am Post subject: |
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| bytor wrote: | | The Hellion wrote: | | I hate splashes i think they are useless but thats just what i think!.....go for a 17" or 18" crash to your right just over the ride that rocks!!! |
No splashes? That would make me sad.  |
Yeah, I can't understand not liking splashes. They sound good, and aren't expensive. Heck, a splash is just a drop in the bucket. |
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Barbie Lion King
Joined: 29 Apr 2004 Posts: 1094 Location: SoCal USA
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:58 am Post subject: |
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Splashes are cheap and small. Everybody should have at least 3 or 4... plus 3 jam blocks, very very minimum 2 cow bells, misc wood blocks, etc, etc, etc...
I forgot who said it when I ask about those Tama mini timps, but the term was "crap to bang on" or something like that. You decide if it's a good or bad thing.
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pearlplayer Ferret
Joined: 03 Mar 2004 Posts: 120
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Actually he uses roto's.. |
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Doomed to Drum Grizzly Bear

Joined: 01 Apr 2004 Posts: 750 Location: England
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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yeh splashes are always nice, and I want some octobahns, and talking about random bits of wood on to your kit, im getting a metal beer barrel for mine, , going to have some fun with that |
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Barbie Lion King
Joined: 29 Apr 2004 Posts: 1094 Location: SoCal USA
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Doomed to Drum wrote: | | ... im getting a metal beer barrel for mine ... |
Being lose and relaxed is good while playing but totally plastered and falling off your throne isn't.
Oh, you mean to bang on. I gotcha... maybe you didn't mean that.
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Doomed to Drum Grizzly Bear

Joined: 01 Apr 2004 Posts: 750 Location: England
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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A bit of both is always welcome, I wonder if someone like keith moon would ever take the advice of being totally plastered a bad hing, oh well, just a thought, but its always good for both uses  |
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Iron Man Alley Cat

Joined: 29 Feb 2004 Posts: 179 Location: Thessaloniki,Greece
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: Expanding |
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| acidbass wrote: | Ok, so a guy has a 5 piece drum kit, with basic sizes of toms, a normal snare and a bass drum. Cymbals wise, he plays Hi Hats, an 16" crash and a 20" ride.
Any recommendations for expansions or additions to his kit, either to the actual drums or cymbals? The guy plays metal music and wants to expand his improvising options and scope for making up new drum rhythms, and of course the potential to show-off is also increased
Any suggestions of extras for his kit?
Thanks in advance for any replies! |
I have such a set too(those two cymbals,a snare,a bass and 3 toms) and in the future I'm expanding too.Plus,I don't have so much money so I'm going for a somewhat cheap solution...So here's what I'm going to do for mine..-it should help you
1)Paiste 502 China (I have heard that they rule,and they are in a low price too) (OR Wuhan 14" China (..don't know...))
2)Some 12" Splash (again,Paiste 502-I'm a fan)
3)Maybe a floor or a tom tom (Pearl?)
4)Definetely another pedal (An Iron Cobra double maybe...)
So,that about wraps it up..Cost around 1100 Euros(~Dollars).If I ever get to have them...Or i can also buy the parts separetly in a matter of..well years  |
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