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wampus Not So Newbie
Joined: 18 May 2004 Posts: 8 Location: California, USA
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 12:43 am Post subject: Drum tuning |
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Ok, i'm a relatively new drummer and i bought an old set off a friend a while ago (6-8 moths). I get drumming and stuff, but i need help with the tuning. the set was way off, so i decided to tune it, and i just can't get the concept. See, i'm used to instruments that are tuned to notes, and i have no idea how the drums relate to each other, tuning wise, any help would be appreciated. btw, i know how to physically tune drums.  |
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dogxray Big Guppy

Joined: 09 Feb 2004 Posts: 46 Location: Parkhill, Ontario, Canada
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wampus Not So Newbie
Joined: 18 May 2004 Posts: 8 Location: California, USA
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 6:04 am Post subject: h |
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| yeah i read that, i was just hoping for like, a better explanation. like, i get the concept behind tuning and everything, but am i supposed to tune to what aounds good, or is there some standard? |
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CAPTORofSIN King of the Jungle

Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 1805 Location: Lousy So Cal.
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 7:39 am Post subject: |
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there is really no set standard. it depends on what type of music you're aiming to play, and what you think sounds good. once you understand the basics of tuning you can branch off and try different things that sound good to you. _________________ Candy - taste like chicken, if chicken was a candy. |
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wampus Not So Newbie
Joined: 18 May 2004 Posts: 8 Location: California, USA
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 9:02 am Post subject: i |
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basically i play metal (sometimes soft be metal is predominant), i beat the toms a lot and like a cracking, non resonant snare sound. Also could somebody explain the difference between batter and resonant heads. Again, I get the concept but are there any differences that rally define what they are? Also, how do i tune cymbals?  |
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DanielBM85 Lion King
Joined: 24 Nov 2003 Posts: 1289 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 9:09 am Post subject: |
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Tuning cymbals is pretty easy, it does take some practice though.
www.youdontreallytunecymbals.com has some good pointers. bytor or one of the other members might be able to give some insight as to how to tune them properly _________________ Capitalism is where man exploits man, Communism is the other way around. |
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rusty Emperor of the World

Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 3787 Location: Jolly Olde New England
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 9:10 am Post subject: |
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I use a Korg chromatic tuner but any chromatic tuner over $100 will work fine. They REALLY do sound better. You really should get yourself a tuner ASAP. _________________ "Yeah, well, you know, that's your opinion, man..." |
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bytor Admin

Joined: 12 Aug 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Kansas
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 11:09 am Post subject: |
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| DanielBM85 wrote: | Tuning cymbals is pretty easy, it does take some practice though.
www.youdontreallytunecymbals.com has some good pointers. bytor or one of the other members might be able to give some insight as to how to tune them properly |
No, I think the site you provided pretty much covers it.
Wampus, the guys are giving you a hard time (they're pretty good guys, really -- don't mind their jokes too much ), but basically, a cymbal is what it is. A crappy cymbal is just going to sound crappy. There's not much you can do about it. Some people will put tape on a cymbal to get a drier sound (i.e. less overtones and ring), but you can't really tune a cymbal. If you have cheaper cymbals, the best thing you can do is save up, take the plunge, and get some professional (or nearly so) cymbals made out of B20 bronze. The Sabian XS20 series is a less expensive line made out of B20 bronze that has gotten many good reviews. I don't know if you need to upgrade your cymbals or not, but if so, those might be something for you to check out. |
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nofxpunk12 Hamster

Joined: 30 Apr 2004 Posts: 86 Location: MI
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 11:20 am Post subject: |
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| rusty wrote: | | I use a Korg chromatic tuner but any chromatic tuner over $100 will work fine. They REALLY do sound better. You really should get yourself a tuner ASAP. | what?? a tuner can i use my guitar tuner than?  _________________ I LOVE THE EXPOLITED
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DanielBM85 Lion King
Joined: 24 Nov 2003 Posts: 1289 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 11:23 am Post subject: |
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rusty = genius
nofx, your guitar tuner should work fine for the cymbals _________________ Capitalism is where man exploits man, Communism is the other way around. |
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omni Fierce Poodle
Joined: 08 May 2004 Posts: 278
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 11:36 am Post subject: |
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| "I just tune 'em so I hear the PIGMIES in 'em..." The great Art Blakey, when asked how he tunes his drums. |
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wampus Not So Newbie
Joined: 18 May 2004 Posts: 8 Location: California, USA
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 2:13 pm Post subject: i was kidding... |
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hey guys, i was joking about tuning a cymbal... hahaah.  |
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DanielBM85 Lion King
Joined: 24 Nov 2003 Posts: 1289 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 4:44 am Post subject: |
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there actually was someone a week or two ago asking about tuning cymbals, ridiculous _________________ Capitalism is where man exploits man, Communism is the other way around. |
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Doomed to Drum Grizzly Bear

Joined: 01 Apr 2004 Posts: 750 Location: England
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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"Also could somebody explain the difference between batter and resonant heads"
The batter head is the one you hit, the resonant's the opposite one, which you dont hit. I think I'm right in saying that the resonant head is thinner, if you are looking for a difference. Correct me if I'm wrong anyone |
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wampus Not So Newbie
Joined: 18 May 2004 Posts: 8 Location: California, USA
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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| yeah, i know what the difference in heads is, just not how and if they should be tuned to different tensions, and their effects on resonance and attack |
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