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nofxpunk12 · Hamster Joined: 30 Apr 2004 Posts: 86 Location: MI

ok forget the title Laughing

jsut no 1 answerd my question and i really need a opion ok is this a good drumset!?http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=040526131945064012116131259002/g=perc/s=acoustic/search/detail/base_pid/445923/ and ive never played mahogany..or maybe i have Confused

but \can anyone give me a discription on what the sound like?
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Jonesie67 · Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 12:44 pm Post subject:

That's basically equal to a Pearl Forum. Mahogany isn't a very good drumset wood. Thats usually the filler middle shells between the two plys of maple in a middle of the line kit.
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rawrock · Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 3:02 pm Post subject:

Yeah, alot of mid-entry level kits are made of Mahogany. It's definately not as good as maple or birch, but I've played some mahhogany kits that don't sound that bad if their tuned right and have good heads. I'm not sure about that particular set though because I've never played it.

blazendreadlocks · Alley Cat Joined: 03 Aug 2003 Posts: 184

From what i hear gretsch drums are good, so i would think there entry level kits cant be bad, im shur they will sound decent, to see somewhat how the drums will probally sound around check out some linkin park, there drummer uses gretsch.

The549 · Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 9:29 pm Post subject:

I have the older blackhawk series, and wouldn't recommend it. However, this is a revamped model, with three less mahoganny layers and new hardware.

rawrock · Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 2:02 am Post subject:

Premier · Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 2:55 am Post subject:

Gretsch high end drums are some of the best on the market, so I would say that the entry level kits are decent. If you live near a Gretsch dealer, go try one out and see how they sound. Another thing, entry level kits today are all fairly decent. With the right heads and tuning they all sound good.

bytor · Admin Joined: 12 Aug 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Kansas

I've played an older Blackhawk, and I must say I can't recommend them. However, like PeterS said, this new model is probably better. Then again, an entry level kit is usually just that, no matter what brand it is. You may do better looking in your local paper for a used kit of intermediate quality.

joshthedrummer · Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 11:10 am Post subject:

Don't pigeonhole mahogany as a wood associated with lower end kits, the phillipine mahogany isnt actually real mahogany, real mahogany is very dark brown and usually comes from africa. lok at the pearl masters kits, theyve got some lovely mahogany kits, only pearl ones worth buying in my opinion. Very Happy

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nofxpunk12 · Hamster Joined: 30 Apr 2004 Posts: 86 Location: MI

that sux but has any one played on the sonor force 03 maybe Question

and dose any one have a price ont that permier entry level kit,oddly ,ive heard alot aof great stuff bout it
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bytor · Admin Joined: 12 Aug 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Kansas

Here are some prices on the Premier Cabria at Music 123:

http://www.music123.com/Drum-Sets-Premier-b241d765.music

nofxpunk12 · Hamster Joined: 30 Apr 2004 Posts: 86 Location: MI

ahh thanks byor but any info on basswood isnt it a step up from mahongany?
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bytor · Admin Joined: 12 Aug 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Kansas

Basswood probably isn't as highly regarded as mahogany, actually. To be honest, the types of wood in a drum kit mean less than how the kit actually sounds.

I, personally, have not played a Premier Cabria, but I've heard enough good things about this kit from guys I respect on this forum to know that it must be one of the best deals in entry-level kits out there. I have played other Premier drums before, however, and do know that they are of excellent quality. I can tell you that regardless of what type of wood is in the Cabria, it's probably going to be one of the better kits available in that price range from any company.

nofxpunk12 · Hamster Joined: 30 Apr 2004 Posts: 86 Location: MI

so what ur sayin is that magonhy is better than basswood or it dont matter its just a sound diff not a quality
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bytor · Admin Joined: 12 Aug 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Kansas

Pretty much, yeah. Basswood is often used in cheaper drum kits because the wood itself is cheaper than mahogany, maple, or birch. It's just a way for the company to save money and be able to offer a kit for less. It doesn't automatically mean that because a drum contains basswood that it's not good or anything.

Mahogany is generally seen as a better wood for drum shells, but the most important thing is how the drum sounds. You might find a basswood/mahogany combination that sounds better than an all mahogany drum. The quality of the sound depends on more factors than just what kind of wood is in the drum. So, now that you're thoroughly confused, let me just say that you should trust your ears. Smile