one more stupid head question.

blazendreadlocks · Alley Cat Joined: 03 Aug 2003 Posts: 184

Ok, well i have finally gottena good sound out of my heads, the thing is i had to crank them all the way up and slowly tune down till i got a sound, the reason i did this is i couldnt get a good sound out of the lower pitch at all, so my toms now sound high pitched, i was wondering if the high pitch of them will become deeper and still sound good? thanks.

Snake · Big Lion Joined: 10 Feb 2004 Posts: 989 Location: DFW

Do you mean if you keep tuning them down, will they sound good at a lower pitch? If so, there's only one way to find out - give it a try.

Let me ask you this: Are you seating and stretching the drumheads before you start tuning them? If not, that could be your problem.
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blazendreadlocks · Alley Cat Joined: 03 Aug 2003 Posts: 184

foster39 · Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 4:43 pm Post subject:

I have a similar problem. My heads never stay in tune for more then a day at a time. I was thinking of buy new heads as i currently use the factory heads which i got to sound great, but they just keep falling out of tune.
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jak · Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 10:04 pm Post subject:

This is irrelevant but I just thought Id let you know in case you didnt. It is to my understanding that your always supposed tune up to pitch rather than down to pitch. Why? I dont know, but I think they recomend doing this with all instruments.
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punkrocker7341 · Lion Joined: 23 May 2004 Posts: 926 Location: AZ

Yup go up not down.
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jak · Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:56 am Post subject:

On the subject of the temp/humidity changes. Make sure you have them in an airconditioned room. If you have them in like a garage patio storage building etc. the temperature can change sometimes as much as 20 degrees or more. During the day our garage is at least 90 degrees but by bed time its closer to like 70-80 ish.

Might even check and see if during the day direct sunlite is getting on them from a window or somthing. Just the sunlite can raise the temp a number of degrees.
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blazendreadlocks · Alley Cat Joined: 03 Aug 2003 Posts: 184

yeah, i got them sounding better, my room actually doesnt change te,p it stays at like 80, but it does get hotter sometimes cause im on the top floor and heat rises #evil

and there isnt any light that comes directly into my, the whole head problem was i just didnt carefully tune them i kept them the same pitch butinstead of small turns on the lugs i sorta when like big turns ha, but yeah its all good now, thanks for the replys.

tplyons · Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 4:46 pm Post subject:

Actually the whole tuning up reason is close, but no cigar Wink

As a bassist and guitarist, I feel I have experience enough to correct this: On a guitar or bass, when you tune down, the tension between the nut and the tuning machine is less than that between the bridge and the nut. Therefore, when you have a pitch you think is correct, then play and move the strings a little, it will settle down into a state of equilibrium but it won't be exactly how you tuned it.

When you tune up, the pull between the tuner and the nut keeps the tension even between the two. If you tune down you risk slippage and losing your intonation, but tuning up is foolproof and more accurate.

Same with drums, when you tune up, the tension between the hoop and the shell is just about even with the tension inside the shell. When you tune down, because of friction that occurs at the shell's edge, the tension in the middle of the shell is less than the outer, and after a few solid whacks, will be uneven and not what you expected.

Glad to add my two cents as a bassist Smile

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