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i have a horrible ringing noise coming from my snare!


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:30 am    Post subject: i have a horrible ringing noise coming from my snare! Reply with quote

#Mad I just received my first drumset (a ludwig) for my 13th birthday which was june 6th. I was really excited and when i first played them i noticed that my snare rang very loudly. It is the actuall snares that make the noise. I dealt with it until now and am asking for advice. I cant stand listening to it anymore. can u help me out Question
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are the snare wires very tight?If not you should try tightening the snare strainer.
You could also try tightening your bottom head...either or both of those should sove your problem!
Congrats on ur kit tho!!hope it brings u LOTS of happines and many hours a drumming your heart out!!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thank you very much, my drum set is near me so ill go try it... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, if you're getting excessive buzz or ring, loosening the bottom head should help that somewhat. Do check the tension on the snare wires, though. I keep mine at about medium tension, but if you're getting too much buzz, experiment with the snare wire tension on your drum to try to get the best sound.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tightening the bottom usually heightens the sensitivity of the head, thereby sending more physical vibrations to the snares. Snare tension hasn’t been mentioned, but understand that it is still a factor. While loosening the head decreases the resonant head’s sensitivity, sound quality is also compromised.

Also, isolate the cause of the ringing. (i.e., “it only happens when I play my second tom” or “certain bass guitar notes set it off” or “the snare drum just never stops rining”)

I suggest you read Tomas Howie’s Tuning Concepts as well as Prof. Sound’s Drum Tuning Bible. The links are in my signature also.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had that too. I just kept on tuning it while playing the other drums until i got the right sound.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

also try goin to guitar center and picking up a Richie Ring or a pack of RemO's for your snare
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Realistically most problems can be "adjusted" out (making tuning differences, snare tension). Things like O-rings and mufflers should be LAST RESORT, if you spend a month trying to get the sound good and still no avail then you should start considering muffling, muffling will always diminish the natural tone of the snare, often times making it less sensitive to small strokes, LAST RESORT. Good luck tuning (use the tuning method linked a couple posts upwards, it works wonders)
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well on my first snare i found out that it wasnt even a perfect circle and that the snare beds were way too deep so there wasnt much i could do so i put on a richie ring and it made the sound much better (it was also a steel snare with a one ply head and it sounds like lars ulrichs snare on the new album without the ring)
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

o just realized that you could also try using a rhythm tech active snare if you cant solve the problem do to your snare itself, like if the beds too deep
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just put tape on the top snare head, worked for me, but not duct tape, that just kills the sound, I put Masking tape on. that works liek a beauty
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just know this: If the snares are very loose, they will vibrate more, making more buzz. so keep tightening those snare wires until the buzz is gone and it still has a snappy sound when played. You may have to compromise a little of one for the other though.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bytor thanks alot for that correction...im begining 2 see where im going wrong with my snare now Smile
I always thought tightening the bottom head would reduce the buzz oops!!
Im not sure about that O-ring comment tho...i put a O-ring on my snare and it sounds SUPER fat now...before it had a very high tone but the O-ring changed the sound somewhat and now its FAT!!Sure it makes ghost notes and such harder to do but...u gotta weigh it up right??
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol now ur makin me confused with o-rings that i use in paintball Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

retardED wrote:
Bytor thanks alot for that correction...im begining 2 see where im going wrong with my snare now Smile
I always thought tightening the bottom head would reduce the buzz oops!!

No problem. I hope it helps. I've noticed over the years that snare drums with a really tight bottom head usually buzz like crazy at certain frequencies (a specific tom, bass drum, or the worst of all -- a specific bass guitar note). Tightly tuned snare drums can be extremely sensitive.

It's really hard to control buzzing in a snare at certain frequencies since by their very nature, snare drums are supposed to buzz, but there are a few things that can be done to reduce the problem and get a little more control of the snare buzzing. Loosening the bottom head a bit is one of them. Loosening or tightening the snare wire tension to find the sweet spot is another. You might even want to experiment with different snare wires, such as the non-spiral wires Grover Percussion offers. Sometimes, changing out the heads can help, as well. Even changing the batter head only can help. Usually, mylar heads that simulate calfskin are good for helping to reduce excess buzzing. Examples of these would be Remo Fiberskyns or Renaissance or the Aquarian Vintage series. I've got an American Vintage head on my old Leedy snare, and it sounds fantastic. These heads look really good, too, especially on older snares. I'll have to get a picture up of that drum sometime soon. It's my baby. Cool
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