where to put the mics

paintballer687 · Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 3:30 pm Post subject: where to put the mics

i have never used mics on my kits before and im getting into doing some home recording and i am not sure where to put the mics.... where do they normally go? heres the size of my kit:
10-12-14-16 toms 22 bass 14 snare
14" hats-10" splash-17" crash-18" crash-20" ride-22" china
i am borrowing my friends mics for now but i am gonna buy my own soon so how many mics should i get and how should they be set up?
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punkrocker7341 · Lion Joined: 23 May 2004 Posts: 926 Location: AZ

use one mic for your bass, one on your snare should pic up the hihats as well, one inbetween your two highest toms, one inbetween your lowest rack tom and floor tom, and two over head mics that pic up all the cymbals.
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paintballer687 · Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:47 pm Post subject:

thanks, so i guess im lookin at a 6 pc mic kit
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foster39 · Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:05 pm Post subject:

Theres a 6 piece Shure mic kit you should look at. Seems pretty decent to me.
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Kevinlsg · Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 7:18 am Post subject:

i'de say to get a nice kick mic and put that about 1/4-1/2 way into the drum. then take a sm-58 and put it about 5 inches away from the batter head of your kick. Mic the snare with a lo-z 57 or an sm-58(I prefer the 58.) Get a set of tom mics, just throwing a mic between the drums will barely pick up anything. I also suggest micking your hats with a akg condensor mic and also to put two overhead condersors facing towards the front of your drumset. also when you mic the snare make sure the mic is facing down so you dont get any bleed from the hats. You could also try playing your cymbals on a second take and to not play them the first time this will make your kit sound punchier. Thats all
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nlberg · Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 11:41 am Post subject:

random white person · Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 12:10 pm Post subject:

is there no need to mic the resonant side of your toms as well?
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Kevinlsg · Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 5:58 am Post subject:

I just got through a recording sessions with my band last night and this is what i had set up. 2 audio technique overhead mic's. for the snare: sm-58 pointed down towards the center of the head. For the Toms: Each got a Sm-57 about 2-3 inches away from the head ( for the toms the mic doesn't have to pointed toward the center, just make sure it's pointing down). And for the kick I had two mics, Inside the kick was a regular audio technique kick mic But! to get extra snap and punch from the kick i added a Sennheiser 421 about 5 inches away from the batterhead. I also used an evans eq patch on the kick and a plastic beater. I'de say this set up if more for a rock sound so if thats what your into try it out. We are releasing 1 song pretty soon so you will be able to hear how it came out.
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chetatkinsdiet · Ferret Joined: 26 Jul 2004 Posts: 107

How much money do you have to spend on the mics?
You can spend about as much as you want to on micing a drumkit properly. Another thing to think about is what are you recording into. If you're using an 8in/out computer card, then there's no need to get more than 8 mics. Are you looking for live or studio mics? They can be the same, so no biggie, but it's good to know. Also, if live, how many channels do you have available?
There's no right or wrong...as is the case with any micing job on any instrument, but here are some standard setups:

high end (recording)

kick inside AKG D112 or Shure Beta52 or AKG RE20 or Sennheiser MD421 or Beyer M88 or Audix D4 or ATM25
kick batter side SM57
kick outside in front Neumann 47fet
snare top SM57 or Beyer 201
snare bottom AKG 414
toms sennheiser MD421 on each
overheads a pair of Neumann 84 or 184 or AKG 451
room mics a nice pair of ribbons are great....beyer M160 (when the levee breaks mics) or any other nice pair of RCA or Royers too. Depends on the room.

Most of this can be used for a live setting as well....minus the out front Neumann on the kick.

A lower end setup is:

kick inside AKG D112
snare top SM57
toms MD421 or SM57
Overheads Oktava MK012 or any other small diaphram condensors...cardiod.

Or, on a really low budget, you can get either the shure drum kit or audix kit. I'd guess that AKG makes a similar one as well.

later,
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Kevinlsg · Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 8:45 am Post subject:

In this last session i recorded my cymbals separatly on a diffrent track. I wasn't using an 8 track analog or anything.. only the best here Protools HD. It's a really sweet program. If any of you live in new england you should definetly check out Bongo Beach Productions in Fall River MA. John Mailloux is the producer and recording engineer there and he's a really cool guy. If any of you have heard of Dispatch check out their album he's the one that recorded and produced it.
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babse · Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:30 am Post subject:

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