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ocdpdrummer4life Kitten

Joined: 01 Apr 2004 Posts: 131 Location: vancouver ,wa
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:27 pm Post subject: drum head question... |
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| hey, well today i jus got some pinstripes for the toms, should i jus get the top head only or get the top and bottom for the toms, by getting jus the top and keeping the stock heads on the bottom will it make the tom sound bad, or changing both bottom and top will make it better?? |
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blazendreadlocks Alley Cat
Joined: 03 Aug 2003 Posts: 184
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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| I think in my opionon its better to change the bottom heads to, i noticed because i left my bottom heads on they just dont sound right, i got the pinstripes myself but the ebony ones, just try it out and see if they sound bad or not, if they dont leave it alone, if they do change the bottom heads to! |
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ocdpdrummer4life Kitten

Joined: 01 Apr 2004 Posts: 131 Location: vancouver ,wa
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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Snake Big Lion

Joined: 10 Feb 2004 Posts: 989 Location: DFW
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 7:47 am Post subject: |
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Depending on how old they are, you might be able to get by with the stock resos for a while. Reso heads tend to last longer than batters since they don't get directly hit. Replacing them will make a noticeable difference though. _________________ "If I didn't make a living beating things with a stick, I'd probably be in a lot of trouble!" - Alex Van Halen |
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random white person Emperor of the World

Joined: 19 Jul 2004 Posts: 3622 Location: New York
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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as i will be purchasing a new Tama Starclassic Performer Fusion in the next few weeks, i was hoping for some advice on heads real quick. they come stock with evans G1s on the batter, and "Tama Clear 200", which im assuming arent amazing, on bottom. the drums themselves have very good tone, so i dont want to try and choke it too much with something like a pinstripe... i was thinking along the lines of Evans G2s, as i have heard that they give a focused sound, without dampening the overall tone. i could then just put the G1s on bottom. i was also looking at the remo powerstroke 3, which is a 1 ply ambassador weight head with small muffling ring around the outside. im leaning towards evans right now.
evans hydraulics may be an option, but ive read that they sound great to you while your drumming, but sound muffled to anyone listening on the other side. my main concern is just to let the drums have some sustain, but not ring like bells every time theyre hit. since they are smaller drums, they cant be completely drowned either. will G2s do the trick?
the bass drum is 22x16... i like my old aquarian impact IIs, but was thinking maybe going with a single ply model for more resonance. |
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Snake Big Lion

Joined: 10 Feb 2004 Posts: 989 Location: DFW
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 6:51 am Post subject: |
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| random white person wrote: | as i will be purchasing a new Tama Starclassic Performer Fusion in the next few weeks, i was hoping for some advice on heads real quick. they come stock with evans G1s on the batter, and "Tama Clear 200", which im assuming arent amazing, on bottom. the drums themselves have very good tone, so i dont want to try and choke it too much with something like a pinstripe... i was thinking along the lines of Evans G2s, as i have heard that they give a focused sound, without dampening the overall tone. i could then just put the G1s on bottom. i was also looking at the remo powerstroke 3, which is a 1 ply ambassador weight head with small muffling ring around the outside. im leaning towards evans right now.
evans hydraulics may be an option, but ive read that they sound great to you while your drumming, but sound muffled to anyone listening on the other side. my main concern is just to let the drums have some sustain, but not ring like bells every time theyre hit. since they are smaller drums, they cant be completely drowned either. will G2s do the trick?
the bass drum is 22x16... i like my old aquarian impact IIs, but was thinking maybe going with a single ply model for more resonance. |
Moving the G1s to the bottom and putting G2s on top sounds like a plan to me. That's a very popular combo that's resonant, but not too resonant. If you want to try single ply, Powerstroke 3s or one of my favorites, Studio Xs, should work well. I wouldn't recommend Hydros though. Those things suck tone out of drums like Jenna Jameson sucks . . . well, you get the idea.
I'm a big fan of the Super Kick/Regulator combo on kicks. They make single ply clear, single ply coated and 2 ply clear versions of the SK. But if you already like the Impact heads, give them a try first. You can always try something different next time.
Congrats on your new kit, BTW!  _________________ "If I didn't make a living beating things with a stick, I'd probably be in a lot of trouble!" - Alex Van Halen |
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random white person Emperor of the World

Joined: 19 Jul 2004 Posts: 3622 Location: New York
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:32 am Post subject: |
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for bass i think ive got it down to either an Impact I (single ply, wide muffling ring) or the Super Kick 2 (double ply, thinner ring). im not sure if ill get the resonator, though. i like the look the tama front head gives the kit, and it doesnt sound bad at all. ill probably go super kick, because even with the muffling ring the single ply impacts will probably still be way to open for me.
i will DEFINITELY not get the evans hydraulics, as ive heard that they sound fairly good and very punchy to whoevers on the set, but like *Bad Typo of a German Word* to anyone who happens to be listening. im no longer a fan of the really muffled heads, as i was really let down by the performance IIs. |
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random white person Emperor of the World

Joined: 19 Jul 2004 Posts: 3622 Location: New York
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| i had no idea how inexpensive Evans are... the grand total is like $30 for three Evans tom heads. then a whopping $40 for an aquarian bass batter. |
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Radialprofan Grizzly Bear

Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 728
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 5:47 am Post subject: |
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| Currently I have the G2's on my toms and I like them ok. They may be just a touch too open for me but not much. I'm about to re-head the entire kit and plan to go with Response 2 batters and Classic Clear resos. My kicks have always had Super Kicks. I like the 2's the best but the SK 1s are great as well. It depends on how much "booooom" you want. The SK 1s are a little more open. With a Regulator on the front of the kick, there's no need to stuff your drum with anything. It should sound terrific fully open. If you want to keep the G1s that come with your kit I'm sure THOSE would be fine. But I'd dump the factory resos and do what was suggested by snake. Get a set of G2s for batters an put the G1s as resos. |
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random white person Emperor of the World

Joined: 19 Jul 2004 Posts: 3622 Location: New York
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 7:00 am Post subject: |
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sounds like a plan to me. as of right now, im planning on not putting the regulator back on my new kit, as i like the look of the gold tama badge on the front head. if the sound suffers, then maybe ill replace it, or maybe just cut a hole in it.
maybe i could upgrade, then get a stencil and throw the tama logo on the new head. god im weird. |
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paintballer687 Emperor of the World

Joined: 25 Jun 2004 Posts: 3288 Location: California Bay Area
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 11:19 am Post subject: |
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personally, i would use g1's and let those babies ring _________________ "Let he who is free of sin throw the first rock and I shall smoketh it."
"Do you want to know what dog food tastes like? Do you? Well it tastes just like it smells... delicious! - Tyrone Biggums |
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random white person Emperor of the World

Joined: 19 Jul 2004 Posts: 3622 Location: New York
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 11:45 am Post subject: |
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| ill have to see how it works out... if it rings too much, then ill get G2s. if not, then ill get new resos. |
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paintballer687 Emperor of the World

Joined: 25 Jun 2004 Posts: 3288 Location: California Bay Area
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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well since its birch i qould like to have that nice clean resonant sound from the birch. if you just dampen it a lot then really wuts the point of buying a professional set like that anyway? just my opnion tho _________________ "Let he who is free of sin throw the first rock and I shall smoketh it."
"Do you want to know what dog food tastes like? Do you? Well it tastes just like it smells... delicious! - Tyrone Biggums |
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random white person Emperor of the World

Joined: 19 Jul 2004 Posts: 3622 Location: New York
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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| i see what youre saying, but i had assumed that G2s ring a lot more freely than say, a pinstripe. i played these with the stock heads, and they sounded great, too. do G2s really muffle that much? |
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Snake Big Lion

Joined: 10 Feb 2004 Posts: 989 Location: DFW
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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You'll really just have to try them and decide for yourself. What paintballer thinks is too dead might be perfect for you and you might think his ideal drumheads ring too much. There is no correct choice, no matter what material the drums are made of. Just go with your gut . . . or better yet, go with your ears.  _________________ "If I didn't make a living beating things with a stick, I'd probably be in a lot of trouble!" - Alex Van Halen |
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