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Help! on buying a Double-Pedal



 
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Vladimir
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 1:46 pm    Post subject: Help! on buying a Double-Pedal Reply with quote

Hello.
Okay, I have been playing for a week, every day. Practicing my rudiments real hard. Reading lots of music. Playing along to my favorite songs, for example, Toxicity by System of a Down, At The drive in, etc.

Alright, now I want to buy a double pedal, My choices are a Giblartar Avengar I or a DW DP402.

I am noticing that my Pearl P100 pedal is not responding to my hability. It squeeks when I pracitce at a tempo of 160bpm.

I am also have a Crash/Ride, and I'm wondering, should I purchase the ride first, then get a better simple pedal. And wait for a year to get a doublebass (expecting I master the simple pedal)

What do you think?
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MilkmanZ14
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wait before you get a double bass. a crash ride just wont cut it for now. Plus, if you get a double bass, you'll be too busy learning it that you wont developt the rest of your drum kit. I had this same crisis and i went with the cymbals. wait till you develop your foot, then move on to a double bass
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Saurencaerthai
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Milkman, get a new ride first. It will open up some of your options when playing and give you some more sounds to work with. As well, you can never work on your single kick playing too much!
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blindboy
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It squeeks when I pracitce at a tempo of 160bpm.


i was having this same problem when i first got my p-100. take some lubricating oil and oil up the pivot points. that did it for me Smile
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MilkmanZ14
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, the 2 #1 rules and products:
1) if it moves and its not supposed to, use duct tape
2) if it doesn't move and its supposed to, use wd40
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blindboy
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my dads philosophy is "if it can't be fixed with duct tape, wd40, or a hammer it can't be fixed" :p
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slob84
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the same problem, i've been playing for a year, and i have a 16" crash, a ride and a hi hat, should I buy another crash or a double pedal?
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rawrock
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What kind of cymbals do you have now?
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slob84
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sabian b8 16" crash, paiste alpha 20" ride, zildjian zbt plus 14 " hats.
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MilkmanZ14
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha, many other people feel my pain. I decided to get both (Actually i got a great deal on cymbals so i have enough money to now buy a double bass pedal). I'd say go with cymbals at first, even though a double pedal is tempting too
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AHAMAY081
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

adding another cymbal really adds to your sound more than a double pedal can unless you've got a few already. it's better to learn the primary stuff before adding cherries to your playing anyway so add some flexibility first by adding a cymbal.
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ffmedic42
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree w/ Milkman. Get the ride first. Besides, get really good a the single pedal first. That way you won't learn double pedal technique and never really learn single pedal technique. I was like you when I got my set. I actually bought a double pedal instead of a single. Big mistake. I'm glad I went to a single pedal and practiced technique.
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rawrock
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah I agree, definately upgrade your cymbals first. I would actually upgrade you hi-hats or crash first because Paiste Alphas are pretty good cymbals, but ZBTs and B8s are pretty bad. BTW I love
At the drive-in.
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