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DW5000 Turbo or 9000 Series ?



 
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Silverlake
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:35 am    Post subject: DW5000 Turbo or 9000 Series ? Reply with quote

I recently bought a DW9000 series double pedal and gave my 5000 Turbo (just broken in) to my son .. I'm not getting the rebound on my 9000's like I did with the 5000 single.. I've changed the spring tention a tad but now I'm at a point that it now feels like the 5000 tention wise but still a little slow on the rebound (just a smidge)... Is this a common problem or "normal" operation with the 9000 or am I going to going thru a small trasition period ?

-Chuck-
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can adjust nearly every single part of the 9000s, so in theory you should be able to get them feel exactly like your old pedals. try messing with the adjustable cam system... adjustable cam, you say?! indeed. check out the rounded piece where your chain/strap rests against. you can change the arc of that, and get radically different results depending on where you set it. i cant remember off the top of my head which is which, but one extreme of adjustment is similar to the 5000 Turbo, the other the 5000 Accelerator. the 9000 doesnt actually come with any literature on how to adjust the cam system (at least mine didnt), but you can find the full blown user manual online (i think its on the DW site, but possibly not) that actually explains it in detail which pictures and whatnot.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks RWP .. I did move the chain to the top of the realm but experienced little change .. it looks like the ramp on the 5000 has a more progressive slope .. Now I'm wondering if I need to save my aluminum can money (just kidding) and pick up a 5000 double .. I will take your advice and check out the adjustments to try and gain more speed out of the pedal .. there's got to be something I'm missing as you say .. I can actually leave my heel on the ground and tap my foot faster than the pedal can keep up.. and my foot speed is nothing to brag about. I set the spring tention up a tad as well but it just feels like I'm playing forward and down on the pedal (?) .. kind of hard to explain - you can still get what you want from the pedal but you just have to work it harder than expected .. (maybe 30% more than a 5000 turbo) .... I'll check D-dubs website .. Thanks -

Chuck
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

theres actually a separate adjustment from the chain posiition that changes the shape of the cam... ill try and get some pics or something up later showing it, because its one of things you probably wont notice unless you know what to look for.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

great idea RWP - Here's a little info I can share. Unfortunely there were no picutres ...

How to adjust your DW Pedal:
For the bass drum pedals, there are a variety of adjustments. One of the most important is the side/duel adjusting hoop clamp. This allows you to modify the height of the clamp for your bass drum hoop. Once the adjustment has been made, a quarter turn on the side-hoop clamp is all that is necessary for set up. Using the allen wrench provided when you purchased the pedal, loosen the set screw on the round knurled nut above the hoop clamp. Adjust the nut to narrow or widen the gap of the hoop clamp for your bass drum. Remember to tighten the set-screw once you dial in the proper height. The spring tension can be adjusted by loosening the round knurled nut at the base of the spring. Underneath the ear of the base casting, pull down on the spring tension nut and adjust the tension by tightening it or loosening it. After you've dialed it in, keep it there by tightening the knurled nut above the ear. Another feature is the slotted stroke adjustment. This allows you to adjust the distance of the beater to the drumhead. Just loosen the drum key screw above the spring and set for the desired action. Delta II pedals feature a weight system that can be modified to suit your playing style. Simply loosen the screw that secures them to the post with a screwdriver and increase or decrease the weights for the desired response. And finally, there is the beater height. This is the most common adjustment to make. Loosen the drum key screw on the beater hub and raise or lower the beater as necessary. We recommend adjusting only one of these features at a time until you become familiar with the reaction they provide.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.dwdrums.com/info/manuals/DW9000PedalManual.pdf

found that, but i think theres a much more detailed version kicking around somewhere. the section labeled "Torque" has some info that touches on what i was talking about before.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:02 pm    Post subject: 9000 series pedal adjustments.. Reply with quote

That is perfect RWP ! I saved the info in my favorites and will be putting it to good use.. I just installed a new set of Resonate and Batter Super Kick II heads on the B. drum and now I'm stoked to get this peddle dialed in .. Thanks for taking the time to bail out of a information crisis ..

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