Musically lost

tylerdrummer · Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:51 pm Post subject: Musically lost

lately i have been kind of confused,
i usually write metal, groove oriented music
lately ive been playing alot of heavy and metalcore music.
but at durm lessons my teacher want me to learn alot of jazz, even though i dont play it anymore.
and in my band i play like a rock punk music, and they dont want drums to be too technical
has anyone been in this kind of situation, like i love playing with these guys and all but its not like musically satsifying,

random white person · Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:00 pm Post subject:

you can find ways to add your flair to any kind of music. simple, subtle touches can greatly elevate your playing, without making you look flashy or overly technical. you may not like the actually substance of certain genres youve been forced to learn (ie jazz) but you can always take the general concepts they taught you and apply them to everyday playing situations.
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shiloh · Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:52 am Post subject:

It all comes down to practice, I can understand what your teacher is doing, jazz is a great way to improve technique, some of my fav drummers are jazz oriented, and I lean in that direction myself.
And as Random said, apply your expertise to what ever you`re playing, it doesn`t have to be busy and technical to sound great.
Give them what they want, by making it fun and interesting for yourself.
Oh and yes I`m in kind of the same boat as you. The genre I`m playing is not my cup of tea, but I see it as a challange, and having a lot of fun with it, it all lends it`s self to practise and experiance, making myself a more well rounded percussionist.
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Exzilibus · Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 5:59 am Post subject:

I've been in a band that wanted very simplified drums and it did not satisfy me musically. I had a lot of fun working with them and wanted to try something different...but I then left the band after a year anyway because it took the guitarists SOOOOOO long to write. They only wrote 3 simple songs in an entire year and then right before I quit they said that they want to start everything over from scratch.

My point: IF there are other things in the band besides your playing that you DO enjoy - The music, the progress, the chemistry while playing, etc. ...then it might be worth it to stay. But if there isn't much going on with the other members AND you're unsatisfied musically...then do yourself a favor: Quit and find a better band.
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tylerdrummer · Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:27 am Post subject:

luckly, there are probably become one of my best friends, over the time being(even my brother, who we dont really talk much, lives inside the house, have become better) even though they all have like 4 years on me.
they are pretty quick at writing(4 of our good songs came in a week) and even though they change the direction i was going, they have made a song from my lyrics, and weve played a few shows, are pretty devoted musicians, and hope to play more shows. people my age havent really staryted making bands, but this year i'll probably try to make a more metal bsed band and just have 2 bands, its just not the best music i would chose to play for now

drummerb0y25 · Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 5:32 pm Post subject:

Try to play everything, but only play what you enjoy hearing and playing. Otherwise its just pointless exercises that yes will help in the overall picture, you won't progress as fast. Jazz isn't for everyone. If you don't enjoy it, don't waste your time. But remember, there will come a time when you wish you mastered the big 15 jazz figures and etc.
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tylerdrummer · Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 5:54 pm Post subject:

its not that i dont injoy it, but ive been doing study on it for the last year 1/2 to two years, and its getting old, im just doing all of these weird things, and im tired of it, and dont plan to do jazz band or anything so its pointless to this extent

drummerb0y25 · Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:11 pm Post subject:

[quote="tylerdrummer"]its not that i dont injoy it, but ive been doing study on it for the last year 1/2 to two years, and its getting old, im just doing all of these weird things, and im tired of it, and dont plan to do jazz band or anything so its pointless to this extent[/quote]

Eh? So you enjoy it but are tired of it and its getting old. Makes perfect sense Confused

you are not easy to help!
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foster39 · Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:11 pm Post subject:

Don't worry about being too technical. You can still get away with cool things with "simple" music. The drummer in Bad Religion plays a lot of the same beats but still throws in the neat little trick time to time. Same with Josh Freeze and the Vandals. Another guy that does it real well, especially on their last album is Fall Out Boy's drummer. He does little odd bass drum patterns or neat technical fills but doesn't sound out of place. Just gotta find that right mixture.
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tylerdrummer · Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:27 pm Post subject:

i try to write as much as i can with as little of words.
it was fun and enjoyable, so dont say well hell your going to regret and yo need to feel the jazz and all the other bs, but ive learned alot more then the basics and its not very enjoyable anymore but at a time it was.

Mr. Funky · Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:11 am Post subject:

drummerb0y25 · Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:44 am Post subject:

tylerdrummer · Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:30 pm Post subject:

dont take it the wrong way here i do like what your saying, but i dont want you thinking i havent studied jazz,
my life isnt wraped around blasts, cause i dont like blasts or rock beats cause they are boring, but i like to kind of go from genre to genre, rock, jazz, metal, double bass jazz, swing, and i am actually more intrested into like like a progressive music for my playing, marco minneman, tool(thats rock but it is very progressive)
so i am like you, you said you gave up at an intermediate level and moved on, thats what i like to do and get into more progressive stuff.

note i said bs because i didnt want to type out all of the things various people have said to me not just you