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Inferno
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2004 8:13 am    Post subject: Snare Trouble Reply with quote

I'm a funk drummer, looking for advice on drum tunings:
I've recently bought a new kit, and i can't get the snare quite right yet, can anyone offer info on their particular tunings, methods or heads?
cheers
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MilkmanZ14
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2004 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

make your head TIGHT
make your snares TIGHT

best advice i can give you
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rawrock
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2004 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, and you might want to replace the factory heads with a nice two ply coated head(batter side of course) and a new snare side head. And since the heads are new there will be some stretching so you're going to have to tighten the heads fairly often.
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Saurencaerthai
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2004 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd recommend getting the Grover non-spiral snares. They allow for the snare sound with less buzz and don't completely choke the drum up.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, that sounds like a good plan - is there a way of telling how many ply a drum skin is?
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bytor
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I would be more inclined to go with a single-ply coated head with a dot on the underneath side for the snare batter, rather than a double-ply coated head. A single-ply coated w/dot underneath (Aquarian makes an excellent one!) is going to be just as durable as a double-ply, if not more so, without deadening the natural resonance of the drum too much. Either way, though, you'll do well to replace the factory heads.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good point Bytor.
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drum_solo
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 10:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Snare Trouble Reply with quote

Just got a new kit myself!!
Came with Everplay heads(suck)
Changed the toms, now louder and more responsive
Just done the Snare last night(top , bottom)
What a difference..~phew~
Tuned the bottom head fairly tight
Top head 'bout the same.
After a work out needed a slight tune (top)!
Thats it!
Lovely.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 10:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Snare Trouble Reply with quote

Forgot to mention
Remo weather king bottom
Remo Pin top
Works for me
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd DEFINETALY not get coated. They make it way two dry. I'd also not get clear as they make it too ringy. So I'd suggest Remo's Emperor Smooth Whites. There in between a coated and a clear head. They produce a very "tomish" type sound but without all the resonance.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bytor wrote:
Personally, I would be more inclined to go with a single-ply coated head with a dot on the underneath side for the snare batter, rather than a double-ply coated head. A single-ply coated w/dot underneath (Aquarian makes an excellent one!) is going to be just as durable as a double-ply, if not more so, without deadening the natural resonance of the drum too much. Either way, though, you'll do well to replace the factory heads.


Oh are we on the same level? I was just going to suggest this. 2 ply is a bit too thick, and the single ply with the reinforcement dot (remo, evans, aquarian) is the head of choice for my snares. However since you like the funk sound the single ply center dot should do the job. My buddy who also is a funk drummer likes the snare to to sound tight but open. Tight, tight heads, you'll know when they're too tight. You can tell a choked up snare.

By the way what size snare are we talking about?
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Animalien
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I cannot give you advise until I know a bit about the drum. What brand is it? What size is it? Is it Maple? Birch? Steel? Is it vented?

A drum skin comes in 1 ply or 2. Most 2 ply have oil in the middle. Pin stripes are 2 ply. The only other 2 ply would be if it had a built in silencer, like Aquarian heads have.

If you are playing funk, I would guess you want that "Crack" and "Pop". So you would want a thick coated top head and a thin bottom.

Remember though - it's not all about heads and snares in getting that "Crack". It's also knowing how to play the snare when you are funk drumming.
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