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rhythm_method
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Joined: 17 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2004 5:58 pm    Post subject: stupid question Reply with quote

People tell me that if I want to get a double bass pedal, I should also consider either getting a remote hi-hat or a drop clutch. Though I'm far off from having enough money for the pedal (much less a second hi-hat), I don't quite get how the drop clutch works...

As I understand it, you can switch from open to closed hi-hat and back again with a drop clutch much easier while playing than if you were to try and adjust the hi-hat manually - a big advantage when playing with a double pedal, I can see, but I just don't get how it works. Can anyone explain it for me?

Thanks.
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jak
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2004 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the dw drop clutch and it works like this.

Thier are 2 peices to it, the bottom peice is like a regular hi-hat cluth but instead of clamping to the little pole it just sits on the pole and can move up and down freely.

The top peice is like a latch, you clamp it onto the pull rod and it holds up the free floating peice, then their is a lever on the side of top peice that when hit drops the bottom peice alway down ontop of the bottom hi-hat.


bassically how it works is instead of having to push the foot pedal down on your hi-hat stand you can hit that lever and it drops the top hat down onto the bottom one so the hi-hats are closed but you dont have to have your foot on the pedal to keep them closed which frees up your left foot for double bass work.

Then when you want to open the hi-hats you just press the foot pedal and the top lever clamps onto the bottom peice of clutch and your back to normal.

That proboly wasnt too clear but hopefully it helped some.
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Saurencaerthai
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2004 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jak wrote:
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Shorter recap: A drop clutch is a special clutch with a lever on it. If you hit th lever, the hihats drop down to a closed position. If you step on the pedal, it re-engages the clutch so that the hihat can be played with a pedal.

It is useful because you can quickly go from playing single bass with a closed hihat to doublebass.
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool. Thanks, guys.
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2004 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi guys,

I don't really see any need of a remote hihat unless You plan on moving the hihat to an awkward hihat stand position or if You want a second hihat to Your right (for a right-handed setup) etc.

With a double bass pedal I just find an extra hihat foot board to be difficult to reach, You'd really have to exercise You litheness to be able to reach that second hihat pedal!
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mfran
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2004 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there may be some confusion... although some drummers set up remote hi-hats on the right with a working foot-pedal to free up the left hand to play snare/tom patterns, many drummers simply keep that second hi-hat over to the right, cymbals closed, so that when they are using double bass pedals, they don't have to worry about the hats pedal at all, they can just play it closed.

The easiest, cheapest way around this, is the aforementioned drop-clutch. It works as mentioned above by the previous posts, but since a picture is worth a thousand words, and I already used up a few hundred words myself, here you go:



Let's say you are rocking out with both bass drums, but want to play your hi-hats closed.
See that top black part on the right? Just tap it with your drumstick, and it unhooks so that the top hi-hat cymbal drops down from gravity, and you can play the hats closed.

Later, when you put your foot back on the hi-hat pedal and press down, that silver hook on the left will grab the top hat again, and you are back in business with a normal hi-hat foot-action set up.

When you decide to rock out double-bass again, tap that black piece again, and down drops the top hat again. No need to twist any keys with your hands... Nice invention!
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2004 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was going to buy a remote hi-hat for the right side of my kit. It had the clutch for double bass work. I decided to go with this instead. It holds the cymbals closed and you can adjust how lose or tight they are and it's a heck of a lot less money. $50.00


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