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DruHmOaR Rabid Pit Bull

Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 410
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 11:07 am Post subject: Couple quik questions |
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question#1:i know stix are named by like letters and numers like 8d and stuff like that...what do the numbers and letters stand for...like is the number how long and the letter how fat or something like that..?
Question#2this ones about the beater things u hit the bass drum with(is this the right section for it?)how big of a differnce in sound can they make and what diffferent types of those are there
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random white person Emperor of the World

Joined: 19 Jul 2004 Posts: 3596 Location: New York
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 11:29 am Post subject: |
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yah, the combination of letter and number refer to length, circumference, and tip style. _________________
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Snake Big Lion

Joined: 10 Feb 2004 Posts: 989 Location: DFW
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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1. Yes, the numbers and letters "describe" the sticks, but each manufacturer has their own version of 5A, 5B, 2B, etc. Back when there were only a couple of manufacturers, they were standard, but now they're not. Also, each number and letter had specific meaning, but I can't remember what they were at the moment. It was something like A = orchestra, B = concert, etc. There used to be a website that explained it, but I can't find it.
2. A felt beater will give you a fat thump (although some felt beaters are harder or softer than others). Wood and plastic will give you a much more focused, attack-heavy pop. _________________ "If I didn't make a living beating things with a stick, I'd probably be in a lot of trouble!" - Alex Van Halen |
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DjembeDog Bear Cub

Joined: 12 Jun 2004 Posts: 622 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: Couple quik questions |
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| DruHmOaR wrote: | | question#1:i know stix are named by like letters and numers like 8d and stuff like that...what do the numbers and letters stand for...like is the number how long and the letter how fat or something like that..? |
Answer #1: From August 2004 Modern Drummer “It’s Questionable” section – “Stick Designations.”
“Prior to the 1950’s, there were no specialty drumstick companies. The prominent drum companies of those days were making and/or marketing all the drumsticks. There were far fewer models than there are today, and what models there were were given designations that referred to their intended use. The three most common stick model designations were (and still are): A, B, and S.
A “B” designation stood for “band,” and referred to stage band, big band, or orchestral playing. An “S” designation meant “street,” and referred to marching-band use.
The origin of the “A” designation is a little more vague. Basically it identified sticks that weren’t B or S models. It might have stood for “all-purpose,” but more likely it was simply the first letter of the alphabet and thus easy for everybody to remember.
The numbers on the sticks were intended to give a general impression of their size relative to each other. In A and B models, the larger the number, the smaller the stick. That is, a 2B was larger than a 5B, a 5A was larger than a 7A, and so on. That system is still used today.
However, just to make things confusing, marching sticks went the other way – and still do today. A 1S is smaller than a 2S, which is smaller than a 3S. We can’t tell you why. Some of these details are lost to history.”
Unfortunately, DruHmOaR, this doesn’t answer your question completely, but it should help a bit.
| DruHmOaR wrote: | | Question#2this ones about the beater things u hit the bass drum with(is this the right section for it?)how big of a differnce in sound can they make and what diffferent types of those are there |
Answer #2: Dude, there are more beaters out there than you… can… shake… a… stick… at… I’m so sorry I actually wrote that. Anyway, different beaters really DO make significant changes to your kick’s sound.
Cork------Very Soft
Felt--------Soft
Rubber----Medium
Wood------Hard
Plastic-----Very Articulate
Acrylic-----Very Articulate +
NOTE: there are plenty of other options out there, but the above list is a solid guide. Of course, the bass head(s), drum construction/dimensions, impact pad, drum muffling, beater shape and playing technique all play in producing the live sound you achieve.
Hope this helps! _________________ Great site
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DruHmOaR Rabid Pit Bull

Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 410
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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alright thanks for the help _________________ www.purevolume.com/moxey ~~~listen to my band here
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drumminelsewhere Moderator

Joined: 27 May 2004 Posts: 3712
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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that helped me too, i never really understood the whole stick deal _________________ Not for fame or praise
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